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The New Science Of Female Attraction - Psychology Roundtable

In this evolutionary psychology roundtable, we explore: - If 20% of the men actually get 80% of the attention. - The biggest red and green flags to look out for in the dating pool. - Why women's sexual desire fades faster than men's. - and much more… Guests: - Macken Murphy is an evolutionary biologist at the University of Melbourne, a writer and a podcaster. - Steve Stewart-Williams is an evolutionary psychologist, a professor, and an author. - Rob Henderson holds a PhD in psychology from the University of Cambridge and is a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute. - Get a free bottle of D3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, and more when you first subscribe at https://ag1.info/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get up to $350 off the Eight Sleep Pod 5 at https://eightsleep.com/modernwisdom Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get ChatGPT to explore ideas, solve problems, and learn faster at ⁠⁠https://chatgpt.com - 0:00 Is This the Most Attractive Dance Move? 3:14 Does Looksmaxxing Give Women the Ick? 13:07 Why Do We Get the Ick? 16:52 Are Chads Stealing All the Women? 25:23 Is Marriage Affirmative Action for Men? 31:00 Are Humans Meant to Be Serial Monogamists? 34:52 How Rich Women Change Men’s Resourcefulness 44:18 Abundance vs Scarcity: What’s More Attractive? 55:34 Do High-Earning Women Have Higher Standards? 01:05:03 Can Surveys Accurately Measure Sex Differences? 01:10:36 Are Dating App Users Worse Partners? 01:16:53 What Matters More: Height or Looks? 01:20:46 Why Male Beautification is Exploding 01:31:27 Do Women Prefer Formidable Men? 01:35:22 The Rise of Female Teacher Sex Scandals 01:42:56 Is Being Desired What Women Want Most? 01:47:32 The Dangers of Minimising Sex Differences 01:50:46 The Latest Evidence on Mate Switching 01:52:20 Why Marriage Kills Women’s Sex Drive 01:56:40 How Do We Determine Human Nature? 02:03:34 What Do Lesbians Find Attractive? 02:05:57 Where to Find the Guys - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spotify.modernwisdom.com or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.modernwisdom.com Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Chris WilliamsonhostRob HendersonguestMacken MurphyguestSteve Stewart-Williamsguest
Aug 6, 20262h 6mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Psychologists debate dating myths: ick, Chads, apps, and sex differences

  1. The panel argues that extreme “looksmaxxing” and conspicuous self-optimization can backfire by signaling vanity, inauthenticity, or short-term mating intent, even when appearance improvements raise baseline attractiveness.
  2. They propose the “ick” is more common in women because higher mating costs favor stronger exclusion thresholds, potentially rooted in disgust/behavioral-immune responses and competence/status cue sensitivity.
  3. They challenge the idea that “Chads are taking all the women,” noting sexual-partner distributions for men and women look similar and haven’t dramatically shifted, while viral social media stories and swipe-rate stats exaggerate perceived inequality.
  4. They discuss marriage/monogamy as a cultural technology that constrains polygyny and stabilizes pair-bonding, concluding humans show a mix of strategies but mostly default to monogamy or serial monogamy when “guardrails” are removed.
  5. They review evidence on sex differences and measurement: experiments suggest resource preferences flex with scarcity and local inequality, while debates about stated vs revealed preferences highlight how context (speed-dating, apps, matchmakers) shapes what traits predict mate choice.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Don’t confuse “attention to a looksmaxxer” with “attraction to his looks.”

They argue influencers like Clavicular may be rewarded mainly for fame/status, while similar behaviors in ordinary men can read as narcissistic or odd, reducing long-term desirability even if appearance improves.

Signals work—even when people know they’re “fake”—but personality inferences can erase gains.

Makeup/surgery can increase perceived attractiveness, yet disclosed enhancement can reduce perceived “datability,” likely via inferred insecurity, vanity, or deception rather than pure signal-detection of genes/health.

The “ick” may be a fast exclusion mechanism tied to competence and disgust thresholds.

They frame women’s greater “ick” prevalence as consistent with higher mating stakes—errors are costlier—so small cues (social ineptitude, incompetence, hygiene) can temporarily or permanently flip attraction off.

The Chad narrative is inflated by app metrics and viral anecdotes, not partner-count reality.

Swipe concentration on apps is real, but self-reported partner distributions show most people have 0–1 partners yearly, with a smaller promiscuous segment mating mostly with each other; online “panopticon” content distorts base rates.

Monogamy looks like a widespread default strategy, with serial monogamy common.

Even with modern permissiveness, most people still pair-bond; some lifelong unions exist, some polygyny appears, but switching and multiple love experiences across a lifespan fit a “serial monogamy plus variation” model.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Normal stories of, "Hey, like I met this girl and we really liked each other and now we're engaged, we're getting married," you post that, you'll get, you know, 17 likes.

Rob Henderson

The most common response to the question of how many partners have you had in the past 12 months is one, followed by zero.

Rob Henderson

We evolved to respond more so to signals than to the underlying property.

Chris Williamson

Marrying down is a near deal breaker for women and a non-issue for men, consistent across all three.

Chris Williamson

Being good at dating apps is mostly orthogonal to being a good spouse.

Chris Williamson

Scientifically “attractive” male dance cuesLooksmaxxing, cosmetic signaling, and inauthenticityEvolutionary psychology of the “ick”Myth of the Chad and sexual marketplace perceptionMarriage as sexual redistribution / monogamy vs polygynyResource preferences under income and gender inequalityStated vs revealed preferences (speed dating, apps, matchmakers)Dating apps, dark triad traits, and spouse qualityHeight vs facial attractiveness in app behaviorMale beautification, formidability, and status competitionFemale teacher sex scandals and sexual attention as rewardWomen’s libido decline in long-term relationshipsHuman nature: scarcity vs abundance as “true” baselineLesbian/gay attraction patterns as evidence for sex differences

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