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Why Does Fitness Hurt So Much? | Jordan Wallace, Paul Warrior and Tim Briggs

This week I'm sitting down with CrossFit coaches, athletes, programmers, nutritionists and all round good guys Jordan Wallace, Paul Warrior and Tim Briggs. I absolutely loved recording this, despite being behind one of the UK's top CrossFit Programming Companies, the guys do not take themselves too seriously and it really shows in one of the funniest episodes so far. Expect to learn the key differences between good and great athletes, how your body type can be used to play to your strengths in fitness and how to get blood and semen out of joggers. Find out more: https://www.ReebokCrossFitTyneside.com https://www.WarriorProgramming.com https://www.WeDominateNutrition.com - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/modern-wisdom/id1347973549 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XrOqvxlqQI6bmdYHuIVnr?si=iUpczE97SJqe1kNdYBipnw Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - I want to hear from you!! Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Chris WilliamsonhostJordan WallaceguestPaul WarriorguestTim Briggsguest
May 29, 20181h 34mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:06 – 4:34

    Pre-show gym banter: caffeine, sponsors, Supreme, and questionable joggers

    The conversation opens with chaotic gym-floor banter: late-night energy drinks, coffee requests, and jokes about sponsors and Supreme drops. It quickly escalates into a running gag about Paul’s joggers featuring “blood and semen” artwork and other in-jokes that set the tone.

    • Debate over Red Bull/Lucozade/coffee vs it being “too late”
    • Supreme culture and impulse-buying jokes
    • The Metallica ‘blood and semen’ joggers bit
    • Team chemistry and teasing between Jordan, Paul, Tim, and Chris
  2. 4:34 – 6:10

    From memes to meaning: taking a real intro and mocking fitness sponsorship culture

    They pivot into a more formal start while riffing on influencer sponsorship clichés. Stef Dekkers is mentioned as an example of calling out performative sponsor gratitude and exaggerated training claims.

    • “Volvic sponsorship” bit and turning labels to camera
    • Discussion of Stef Dekkers’ satire of fitness sponsorships
    • Mocking unrealistic training claims (e.g., ‘36 hours a day’)
    • Setting up the group’s roles and personalities before the serious talk
  3. 6:10 – 9:08

    Jordan Wallace’s CrossFit origin story (2009): running background to owning an affiliate

    Jordan explains how he transitioned from endurance running into early CrossFit after reading about training for the movie ‘300’. He describes how small and informal the scene was, and how he ended up buying and growing CrossFit Tyneside.

    • Started CrossFit late 2009 after distance running goals (Great North Run)
    • ‘300’ article as the gateway to CrossFit awareness
    • Early UK CrossFit: minimal equipment, low costs, DIY culture
    • Buying the affiliate and later bringing Paul on as head coach
  4. 9:08 – 11:08

    How early CrossFit competitions worked: sectionals, pre-Open chaos, and the sport’s growth

    Jordan breaks down how competition formats evolved from ‘name in a hat’ sectionals to the Open/Regionals/Games pipeline. The segment highlights how much less polished and lower-skill the sport was in 2010 compared to now.

    • Pre-Open sectionals: pay, show up, do multiple workouts in a day
    • Early skill standards: first appearances of chest-to-bar and GHD sit-ups
    • Regional qualification structure and how it changed after 2011
    • Contrast with today’s stadium setups, judging, and online standardization
  5. 11:08 – 15:27

    Tim Briggs’ path: overweight beginnings, functional training influence, and coaching focus

    Tim describes getting into fitness after recognizing he was overweight, then being inspired by the ‘300’ extras and functional training ideas. He joins Jordan’s gym, performs decently in the first Open, then gravitates toward coaching and programming.

    • Weight loss attempt via global gyms before discovering CrossFit
    • Influence of Mark Twight/Jim Jones functional training ideas
    • First gym session as a ‘life-ruining’ short workout leading to immediate signup
    • Shift from competing interest to coaching/program design curiosity
  6. 15:27 – 20:35

    Paul Warrior’s start + the big question: are CrossFit athletes the ‘fittest on earth’?

    Paul’s and the group’s experience frames a broader discussion about what “fitness” means and whether CrossFit’s branding matches reality. They argue CrossFit uniquely tests broad capability, but “fittest” depends on the definition and on game strategy.

    • CrossFit tests broad time and modal domains more than most sports
    • Tia-Clair Toomey example: Games performance plus Olympic lifting crossover
    • Fitness vs winning: game strategy can beat ‘pure fitness’ (pegboard example)
    • Higher levels look less like ‘typical CrossFit’ due to event specificity
  7. 20:35 – 27:22

    Why CrossFit hurts: brutal movement pairings, competition pressure, and the anaerobic trap

    They dig into why CrossFit feels uniquely painful compared to single-modality endurance like marathons. The combination of movements, unfamiliar ranges of motion, and social/benchmark pressure push people past sustainable intensity—especially novices who redline early.

    • Hero WOD examples (Mr. Joshua, Bull) and why their combos destroy you
    • Extension-to-flexion transitions (deadlifts → GHD sit-ups) as a pain recipe
    • Psychological factors: times to beat, community pressure, ‘hero’ tribute framing
    • Beginners go anaerobic quickly and don’t yet understand pacing limits
  8. 27:22 – 31:32

    Pacing and energy systems: where to push, where to relax, and why the rower lies

    Using the Open workout with deadlifts, wall balls, rowing, and handstand push-ups, they explain pacing as a skill built through experience. They discuss how different body types and strengths change optimal strategy and how ‘going harder’ can backfire by forcing long recovery pauses.

    • Aerobic vs anaerobic threshold and what ‘redlining’ feels like
    • Movement-by-movement strategy (capitalize on strengths, survive weaknesses)
    • Rower intensity tradeoff: faster split can cost more recovery before the next station
    • Experience-based pacing: knowing what you can sustain for 10–30 minutes
  9. 31:32 – 39:06

    Training taxonomy: strength, sprint/anaerobic work, sport (5–20 min), and aerobic development

    Tim outlines how they categorize CrossFit training domains and why different sessions target different adaptations. They tie this to programming and periodization, especially as athletes approach the Open and need more ‘sport-specific’ mixed-modality work.

    • Strength/max effort work (heavy compound or Olympic lifts)
    • Anaerobic capacity: very short sprint intervals and team-based repeated efforts
    • ‘Sport’ domain: typical Open-style 5–20 minute mixed-modality efforts
    • Aerobic development: longer, lower-intensity base work integrated year-round
  10. 39:06 – 44:38

    CrossFit’s adolescence: dumb early challenges, 1000 burpees, and gym folklore

    Chris asks for the stupidest old-school CrossFit stories from when the sport felt less mature. Jordan and Paul share extreme volume days, massive burpee sets, and endurance-to-hero-WOD mashups that highlight how training culture has evolved (sometimes for the better).

    • Doing ‘all the Girls’ in one day (huge volume, all-day ordeal)
    • Annual 1000-burpee tradition and how times changed over the years
    • Half-marathon row + Clovis (10-mile run + burpee pull-ups) suffering stories
    • ‘Sit-down shower’ as the universal recovery tool
  11. 44:38 – 1:00:19

    Injuries, reputations, and why CrossFit gets hated: ego, branding, and social media highlights

    They address the injury stereotype and argue bad coaching exists in every training space. The group explains CrossFit’s polarization as a byproduct of strong identity/branding, visibility on social media, and cherry-picked failure clips going viral.

    • Injury risk framed as coaching-quality and context, not CrossFit uniquely
    • Ego barrier: technical lifts (snatch) humble people faster than bro splits
    • Brand identity attracts hate more than anonymous training styles (e.g., PPL)
    • Social media amplifies the worst fails; CrossFit media shifting to inclusivity
  12. 1:00:19 – 1:16:03

    CrossFit vs bodybuilding culture: community, efficiency, and performance as a life barometer

    Chris contrasts global-gym isolation with CrossFit’s coached, social class structure and consistent hour-long sessions. They also explore how performance provides an objective metric influenced by sleep, diet, stress, and mood—making training feedback more meaningful than purely aesthetic self-assessment.

    • Class structure reduces ‘what should I do today?’ friction and boosts adherence
    • Efficiency: more intensity and direction in less time vs long solo gym sessions
    • Performance reveals lifestyle inputs (hangover, illness, poor nutrition) instantly
    • Objective benchmarks (Open, Fran/Helen) vs subjective body-image evaluations
  13. 1:16:03 – 1:19:08

    Programming and the competitive season: periodization, weaknesses, and Open → Regionals reality

    They explain how programming stitches together proven single-discipline methods across a year, then individualizes based on athlete needs. The discussion expands into why the Open is a real filter, how ‘specialists’ get exposed, and how competition context differs from training or Instagram recreations.

    • Periodized year: movement quality → strength/loading cycles → sport bias near Open
    • Individual biasing: adding strength/aerobic blocks based on athlete weaknesses
    • Open finds gaps (e.g., dumbbells wrecking athletes built for barbells)
    • Regionals/Games context: intimidation, schedules, travel, strict timing, no redo
  14. 1:19:08 – 1:34:14

    What makes workouts ‘world-ending’: movement pairings (thrusters/pull-ups) and Open finals misery

    They return to the central question—why certain WODs feel uniquely brutal—by dissecting classic pairings and ranges of motion. Jordan shares the workouts that made him feel the worst (often Open week 5) and explains how efficiency changes the pain of benchmarks like Fran.

    • Common brutal pairings: thrusters + pull-ups, deadlift + HSPU, burpees + anything
    • Same-plane opposing actions (‘push/pull’) and big ROM movements amplify suffering
    • Fran as an efficiency test: pain shifts from ‘survival’ to chasing marginal seconds
    • Jordan’s worst experiences often occur at Open finales under accumulated stress

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