Why Does Fitness Hurt So Much? | Jordan Wallace, Paul Warrior and Tim Briggs

This week I'm sitting down with CrossFit coaches, athletes, programmers, nutritionists and all round good guys Jordan Wallace, Paul Warrior and Tim Briggs. I absolutely loved recording this, despite being behind one of the UK's top CrossFit Programming Companies, the guys do not take themselves too seriously and it really shows in one of the funniest episodes so far. Expect to learn the key differences between good and great athletes, how your body type can be used to play to your strengths in fitness and how to get blood and semen out of joggers. Find out more: https://www.ReebokCrossFitTyneside.com https://www.WarriorProgramming.com https://www.WeDominateNutrition.com - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/modern-wisdom/id1347973549 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XrOqvxlqQI6bmdYHuIVnr?si=iUpczE97SJqe1kNdYBipnw Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - I want to hear from you!! Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

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May 29, 20181h 34mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 15:00
What we need, this…
1. CWChris Williamson
  What we need, this is a problem because we've done it late and...
2. JWJordan Wallace
  Red Bull's made.
3. CWChris Williamson
  A Red Bull's, mate, I'm... We're gonna do that. We're gonna fill you full of blue Smarties.
4. JWJordan Wallace
  When?
5. CWChris Williamson
  We're gonna... This isn't tonight. It's too late. It's too late.
6. PWPaul Warrior
  (laughs)
7. CWChris Williamson
  I couldn't-
8. JWJordan Wallace
  What do you mean it's too late?
9. PWPaul Warrior
  I've been all night programming. I've ca-
10. CWChris Williamson
  Some, some Lucozade's in there.
11. JWJordan Wallace
  I've canceled programming for this. I've gotta go back and program.
12. PWPaul Warrior
  Well, you've got to go back and program. Get that Lucozade out.
13. CWChris Williamson
  Get whatever you want, mate.
14. JWJordan Wallace
  Get that sugar out.
15. CWChris Williamson
  There's, I think there's some tequila in there as well.
16. JWJordan Wallace
  Can we just put a coffee up?
17. CWChris Williamson
  There's some Ciroc in there. (laughs) Some pineapple ci-
18. JWJordan Wallace
  Mate, that sounds really nice. All right.
19. PWPaul Warrior
  Can, can we make a coffee go-
20. CWChris Williamson
  Pineapple Ciroc.
21. JWJordan Wallace
  You training as well, Tim?
22. TBTim Briggs
  Mate, stacked up. I need to.
23. PWPaul Warrior
  Tim's got everything, mate.
24. JWJordan Wallace
  He's fit.
25. PWPaul Warrior
  Made more money. Made too much money, mate.
26. CWChris Williamson
  (laughs)
27. PWPaul Warrior
  You two between yous, honestly. You two between yous, he's got more money than he's know what to do with.
28. TBTim Briggs
  No.
29. PWPaul Warrior
  He's rocking a brand new hat this morning.
30. JWJordan Wallace
  But did he drop, but did he drop them in the mud?
15:00 – 30:00
Yep. …
1. JWJordan Wallace
  on with Paul quite well. Did my level one so I could train at my friend's gym back home.
2. CWChris Williamson
  Yep.
3. JWJordan Wallace
  Then the year after, just kind of stuck here. Started to train... Started to coach at Tyneside.
4. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
5. JWJordan Wallace
  Every Wednesday.
6. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah, Wednesday night was training.
7. JWJordan Wallace
  Then a little bit with Paul on Mondays.
8. CWChris Williamson
  Tim, Tim Wednesdays.
9. TBTim Briggs
  Tim Wednesdays. Yeah, started off didn't it and you just kind of like-
10. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
11. TBTim Briggs
  ... you just kind of co-coached with me for a bit, didn't you?
12. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
13. TBTim Briggs
  And then it was like, "Okay, Wednesdays."
14. CWChris Williamson
  Wednesdays were in it.
15. TBTim Briggs
  Wednesdays were in it.
16. CWChris Williamson
  I think one of the things that struck me when I started was CrossFit has managed to brand itself so effectively. And I think when anything's that polished, there's an element that people have got that makes them feel reserved about something. You know, the, the, the style looks so good that the substance can't be up to scratch. Does that make sense? That people are sometimes a little bit suspicious when it looks... And using the tag, the fittest on earth, like it sounds, it sounds impressive and also un- unbelievable in the same sentence.
17. TBTim Briggs
  Yeah, yeah.
18. CWChris Williamson
  So in your opinion, are CrossFit athletes the fittest athletes on the planet?
19. TBTim Briggs
  No, I do think it... I do think they're kind of pre- like trying to produce the fittest on earth in the sense of it's such a broad, broad spectrum.
20. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
21. TBTim Briggs
  And it's the only thing that's really challenging or testing this broad, broad spectrum.
22. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
23. TBTim Briggs
  There isn't anything else that is. So it's like-
24. JWJordan Wallace
  It's a middle ground, isn't it?
25. TBTim Briggs
  Yeah.
26. JWJordan Wallace
  It's a middle ground of everything.
27. TBTim Briggs
  Yeah. And I think the people it's producing who are like, you know, pretty damn awesome weightlifters and pretty damn, re- pretty, pretty strong powerlifters and can run mar- and can run half marathons.
28. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
29. TBTim Briggs
  Can do all of that stuff. I mean, there just isn't a test, like-
30. CWChris Williamson
  Now you're talking about a
30:00 – 45:00
Yeah. …
1. JWJordan Wallace
  seconds after to have a rest before you get on the handstand pushup. So it's like knowing where to push and where to not.
2. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
3. JWJordan Wallace
  Does that make sense?
4. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
5. JWJordan Wallace
  So, there'll be like certain movements...
6. TBTim Briggs
  ... within a workout, where you can go hard and where you can r- relax, basically.
7. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
8. TBTim Briggs
  And it's just through experience, just like anything, uh, through experience of knowing where to push and where to relax.
9. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
10. TBTim Briggs
  So like, in that workout, that's actually quite a good example to use for me, personally. So the deadlifts I'm quite comfortable with, obviously small r- like short range of motion.
11. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
12. TBTim Briggs
  The weight's not that heavy. It's quite, it's moderate.
13. CWChris Williamson
  (clears throat)
14. TBTim Briggs
  Um, the wall balls kill me because I'm a midget and it's high target.
15. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
16. TBTim Briggs
  The row, not great at because I'm small-
17. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
18. TBTim Briggs
  ... and I've got small range of motion again. So obviously-
19. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
20. TBTim Briggs
  ... I can't move the, the handle as well as someone who is taller.
21. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
22. TBTim Briggs
  But then the handstand push-ups are really good because, um, it's a short range of motion again.
23. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
24. TBTim Briggs
  Um, and I'm light. So it's like there's two out of the four that are good and two out of the four that are bad.
25. CWChris Williamson
  And you need to know where you can capitalize-
26. PWPaul Warrior
  Exactly.
27. TBTim Briggs
  ... and where you need to kind of-
28. PWPaul Warrior
  Where you can capitalize and where you can't.
29. CWChris Williamson
  But again with that, there's two, should be, there's two elements on that, that you can catch your breath more by going more easily on the movements that are easier to you-
30. TBTim Briggs
  Yeah.
45:00 – 1:00:00
Yeah. …
1. JWJordan Wallace
  out there that are crap.
2. PWPaul Warrior
  Yeah.
3. JWJordan Wallace
  But you're gonna get that in everything. We like to think that we're, we-, we're decent, we're good, you know. Um, obviously there's always things that we can improve on, but we try and do our best with everything, and we think we do a g- good job, but...
4. CWChris Williamson
  I'd agree.
5. JWJordan Wallace
  It's just... It gets a bad name through the-
6. CWChris Williamson
  So, here's, here's my, sort of, two pence on it, as someone who's now been in the sport for a year and I did... Around about 10 months ago, so just as the open started, after I'd been doing it for two months, I went and did a podcast with the guys from Propain Fitness.
7. JWJordan Wallace
  Yeah.
8. CWChris Williamson
  And we kind of reassessed it, everything from there. And that was-
9. JWJordan Wallace
  CrossFit, yeah, that's where CrossFit was.
10. PWPaul Warrior
  That was when.
11. JWJordan Wallace
  When CrossFit was born.
12. CWChris Williamson
  When CrossFit was born.
13. JWJordan Wallace
  CrossFit was born.
14. CWChris Williamson
  I'm really tempted to call this one Chris Fit, but we'll see.
15. JWJordan Wallace
  I think you should.
16. PWPaul Warrior
  Definitely.
17. CWChris Williamson
  Um-
18. PWPaul Warrior
  And rename your podcast, maybe.
19. CWChris Williamson
  Just CrossFit. I'm so tempted, you know.
20. JWJordan Wallace
  (laughs) Just do it. It'll be fun.
21. CWChris Williamson
  Nah. Anyway, so I went in and, and they, as... Bodybuilding and power lifting background.
22. JWJordan Wallace
  Yeah.
23. CWChris Williamson
  Had a bunch of questions. And, uh, you, you, you are right that CrossFit gets such a bad rep, and we tried to, um, dissolve down what it is that we think makes CrossFit, first, so polarizing in terms of opinion, and then, kind of, what- what gets it the bad reputation. And we came to a number of conclusions. One of them is the fact that I think a lot of people that go to the gym now, especially the guys that are in Global Gyms, they're conflating an interest in exercise and sport and fitness with going and doing bodybuilding.
24. JWJordan Wallace
  Yeah.
25. PWPaul Warrior
  Mm.
26. CWChris Williamson
  They think that the only thing that they can do is to go in and do the curls and do the rest of it, because that has been the prevailing training methodology for the last 30 years.
27. JWJordan Wallace
  Yeah.
28. CWChris Williamson
  And the other side of that, which makes it super attractive, is it's got mega low barriers to entry. So I'll bring this back to my industry. It's like club nights. If you have 1,000 pounds and a DJ and a venue that's prepared to let you in, you now have a business.
29. PWPaul Warrior
  Yeah.
30. CWChris Williamson
  Like, you cannot go and start the new iPhone with 1,000 pounds and the contact of someone who wants a licensed venue.
1:00:00 – 1:00:32
There's investment in the…
1. TBTim Briggs
  we're still reasonably priced within, within Newcastle.
2. CWChris Williamson
  There's investment in the gym as well.
3. TBTim Briggs
  Yeah. You know, we spend a whole budget on equipment.
4. You get a bigger floor.
5. Exactly.
6. CWChris Williamson
  My, my point is that for, for that... Even at the absolute top end, like even if it was 100 pounds, that's three hours of PT.
7. TBTim Briggs
  Yeah.
8. Yeah.
9. CWChris Williamson
  And when you think of the service-
10. TBTim Briggs
  You get, you get-
11. CWChris Williamson
  ... that you can get in comparison to some-
12. TBTim Briggs
  ... every day. Yeah.
13. CWChris Williamson
  Exactly.
14. TBTim Briggs
  Every day. For however long you want.
15. CWChris Williamson
  And I think, you know, uh, this is... This shouldn't seem like a sort of CrossFit is the end, the only solution.... to the problem of trying to get yourself fitter. But I do think that there's a number of elements in there, external accountability-

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