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My First Million

$20M In ONE Day?! (#544)

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Shaan PurihostSam Parrhost

Jan 29, 20241h 2mWatch on YouTube

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Follow Up Boss: A $500M Exit Found Through Facebook Groups
Shaan and Sam discuss Follow Up Boss, a real-estate CRM that sold for $500 million, with $400 million upfront in cash. Sam explains how founder Dan found the idea by reading real estate Facebook groups and then won customers by being helpful there as CEO.
- •Follow Up Boss is a niche CRM, like HubSpot or Salesforce but built for real estate agents
- •The sale was $400M upfront in cash plus a $100M earn-out
- •Dan went through a startup course called The Foundation and mined Facebook groups for complaints
- •He built an MVP with a developer friend and grew by helping people in those groups
- •Sam found a source putting revenue around $28M a year with under 100 employees
Niche-Down Blueprints and Boring Mattress
Shaan frames Follow Up Boss as an example of the niche-down, zoom-in playbook and compares it to other blueprints built on doing the same thing with less. He cites 37signals, Trello, and the new Boring Mattress from the Tuft & Needle founders.
- •Niching down is one business blueprint, and stripping a popular product down to less is another
- •37signals builds simpler products, including Once, which is software you pay for one time
- •Boring Mattress comes from the Tuft & Needle founders, who came back after the D2C wave
- •The mattress is plain and no-frills, priced around $500
- •Trello is another example of fewer features winning
How Long It Takes to Hit $100K a Month
Sam compares how fast several businesses reached $100K in monthly revenue with the four years Follow Up Boss took. They discuss whether they could have stuck with something that slow, and how earlier eras grew more slowly.
- •Shaan's e-commerce company took about three months to reach $100K a month, and he guesses Shepherd took six
- •Hampton took months and The Hustle about nine
- •Follow Up Boss took four years and 11 employees to reach roughly $100K a month
- •Sam says he'd have about a 50% chance of sticking with it at 26 but only 5% now
- •Dharmesh told them HubSpot's first years were a slog, and Shaan notes growth benchmarks have changed
Pivot or Persevere: Time Boxes and the Owner's Psychology
Shaan relays advice from his old mentor Michael Birch on deciding when to pivot or persevere, including setting a time box and weighing the metric that worries you against the one that gives you faith. Sam adds the Business Insider traffic graph, and both discuss how the owner's psychology is the choke point of a business.
- •Birch called the pivot-or-persevere question deeply personal and subject to survivorship bias
- •Setting a time box forces an honest conversation about wrong assumptions
- •Weigh the metric that worries you most against the one that gives you the most faith
- •Business Insider's traffic was flat for about 10 months, two years in, which felt miserable
- •Tony Robbins' line that the owner's psychology is the choke point; Sam's overspending caution at The Hustle is an example
Pieter Levels and Living Life on Your Own Terms
The hosts praise Pieter Levels, who runs several businesses solo and shares his numbers publicly, including his stock portfolio. They discuss his 5% hit rate across 70 projects and why his authenticity wins admiration from entrepreneurs.
- •Pieter Levels runs four or five businesses alone, which Sam estimates at about $2M a year combined
- •He shares revenue and portfolio details openly
- •Only 4 of his 70 projects made money and grew, which he used to argue for shipping more
- •Shaan says nobody has a higher approval rating among entrepreneurs
- •Shaan's theory is that people have the most fun, and are most attractive, when living on their own terms
Bryan Johnson's $20M Day-One Launch
Shaan describes how Bryan Johnson built a character and audience around longevity and then launched a paid Blueprint product that drew 12,000 applicants and 5,000 paying customers. They tie it to the idea that all content is marketing, with Knees Over Toes as a similar example.
- •Johnson's meetups and "Don't die" brand built a cult-like following before he sold anything
- •The first product costs about $330 a month and is a skimmed-down version of his protocol
- •Of 12,000 applicants, 5,000 paid, which Shaan calls roughly $20M in ARR on day one
- •Shaan's phrase: all content is now marketing, and all marketing is now content
- •Knees Over Toes built trust with two years of free content and undeniable proof before selling shoes
Sam's Benchmarking Data Business Idea
Sam pitches a possible future data business built on Hampton's surveys of industries such as agencies and wealth. Shaan teases him that a maybe-eventually idea isn't a called shot, and jokes about the Zuckerberg leaked messages.
- •Hampton surveys agencies and founders for revenue, profit, and net worth benchmarks
- •Salary.com is the model for benchmarking companies that raised large sums
- •Sam thinks he could spin off a benchmarking data company in a couple of years
- •Shaan says calling your shot requires saying you will do it
- •Sam says he deliberately has no access to members' submitted documents
OpenAI's App Store and the Consensus Research Tool
Sam explains why OpenAI's new app store looks like an inflection point, comparing it to the iPhone App Store, the Chrome store, and the Facebook platform. He ties it to Consensus, an AI research tool he invested in, which Shaan tries and likes. They also discuss Perplexity and inflated AI valuations.
- •OpenAI launched an app store in January and hasn't said what payment terms will be
- •Past platform shifts helped Pandora, Honey, Grammarly, and Zynga
- •Consensus summarizes what many scientific papers say and shows how many support a claim
- •Consensus's founders spent roughly two years figuring out their path before this shift
- •Shaan is skeptical of heavily valued OpenAI competitors like Perplexity
Shaan's Intentional Internet
Shaan describes his practice of avoiding algorithmic feeds and going online with a written list of things he's curious about. He uses Ricky Van Veen, the CollegeHumor and Vimeo founder, as an example of what that research turned up.
- •Most content now comes from algorithms or from people asking for attention
- •Shaan adds a paper list step between himself and the internet
- •He researches what the creators of cool past companies are doing now
- •Van Veen's 2008 and later talks included predictions about creators not leaving the internet and viral sites going to zero
- •Shaan says he is not doing a full digital detox, just a healthier use of the internet
Joe Speiser's LittleThings Collapse
Sam tells the story of his Hampton partner Joe Speiser, whose pet blog LittleThings grew into a Facebook-dependent giant. When Facebook changed its strategy, a sale of hundreds of millions of dollars fell apart and the company shut down within months.
- •Joe sold his first ad tech company for hundreds of millions at about 25
- •PetFlow started before Chewy, and he stayed conservative on ad spending
- •The pet blog became one of the most shared sites on Facebook, with about 250M monthly uniques and roughly $90M in revenue in four years
- •Facebook's strategy change came about three weeks before a sale closed, and the company laid off everyone within roughly six months
- •Joe said he was set to make $50 million before the deal disappeared
Choosing Partners: Partnership Agreements and Energy, Intelligence, Integrity
Sam says Joe is a fast, opportunity-spotting partner and describes the life-goals exercise they did before partnering. Shaan is skeptical of stated preferences and prefers Buffett's energy, integrity and intelligence, testing a partner through shared work first.
- •Sam says Joe spots opportunities quickly and is technical and fast
- •Sam and Joe mapped out what they wanted from life before partnering, though Sam says it would not have worked at 24
- •Shaan says stated preferences differ from revealed preferences
- •He looks for energy, intelligence or competence, and integrity, and says energy is a must-have
- •He prefers to trade an experience for a belief by working with someone for a few weeks first
Shaan's Nighttime Routine and Adult Legos
Sam asks how late Shaan works and he walks through his day, from morning work to a midday workout to family time. He protects his late evening as internet time with no talking, while Sam mentions his new Lego hobby before they wrap up.
- •Shaan works until about 2 PM, works out midday, and may do another hour or two of work
- •He spends family time until the kids sleep around 8:30 or 9:00
- •Late evening is for watching a show, working, or reading until 11 or 12
- •He tells his wife he is doing no talking in that window
- •Sam has gotten into Legos since November, and Shaan wants a future segment on adult Legos

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