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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Follow Up Boss, Bryan Johnson, OpenAI's App Store and Founder Lessons
- Follow Up Boss, a niche real estate CRM found by browsing Facebook groups for complaints, sold for $500M after taking four years to reach about $100K in monthly revenue.
- The hosts debate when to pivot or persevere, with Shaan recommending time-boxed milestones and weighing the metric that worries you most against the one that gives you the most faith.
- Bryan Johnson turned content into marketing, with Shaan saying 12,000 applied and 5,000 paid for his first product, which works out to roughly $20M ARR on day one.
- Sam says OpenAI's new app store is an inflection point, citing his investment Consensus, an AI search tool for scientific research, as an early beneficiary.
- Shaan describes an 'intentional internet' approach and a partner checklist of energy, intelligence and integrity, while Sam shares Joe Speiser's LittleThings collapse.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasCustomer complaints in online communities can reveal a startup idea.
Follow Up Boss's founder skimmed real estate Facebook groups, saw an agent complaining about a $500/month tool, and DMed people to validate the problem before building.
Big outcomes can take years of slow progress.
Sam notes Follow Up Boss took four years to reach about $100K monthly revenue with 11 employees, and cites Business Insider's traffic stalling for about 10 months. Both hosts admit this is emotionally hard.
Set time-boxed milestones and ask which metric gives you faith.
Shaan says a time box forces an honest conversation about wrong assumptions. He also weighs the metric that worries him most against the one that gives him the most faith.
The owner's psychology is the main constraint on a business.
Shaan cites Tony Robbins saying the root cause of business problems traces back to the owner's psychology. Sam gives his own cheapness on Facebook ads as an example.
Content built over time can function as pre-launch marketing.
Shaan argues Bryan Johnson's public persona produced 12,000 applicants and 5,000 paying customers, and that this is why 'all content is marketing.' He compares it to trusting the Knees Over Toes founder after two years of free content.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesUndeniable proof is a very, very powerful lever.
— Shaan Puri
I say, "All content is now marketing, and all marketing is now content."
— Shaan Puri
Nobody, and I mean nobody, has a higher approval rating amongst entrepreneurs on the internet than Pieter Levels.
— Shaan Puri
I would always trade an experience for a belief, and if I can have an experience working with you on something for three weeks, that's gonna be way better than me trying to put, take a leap of faith on a bunch of things you said or you wrote down in a Google Doc.
— Shaan Puri
The empowering part is it's in your control. The, the scary part is, shit, it's my fault.
— Shaan Puri
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SPEAKERS
Shaan Puri
hostCo-host of My First Million and entrepreneur/investor focused on startups and internet business.
Sam Parr
hostCo-host of My First Million and founder of Hampton (joinhampton.com), a membership community for entrepreneurs.
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