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At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Slow Compounding, Betting on People, and Happiness Habits for Entrepreneurs
- Sam Parr opens by describing how he helped athletes like Chris Pronger go viral on Twitter, and Andrew Wilkinson notes how valuable a personal following is as a safety net and source of optionality.
- Andrew argues for a 'boring house' path of buying or running cash-flowing businesses over venture bets, and Shaan agrees, calling the venture path the 'Olympics of business' that is often driven by ego.
- Andrew says he reinvested 80–90% of profits into incubating and then buying businesses, with an estimated compounding rate in the 40s percent, and now owns a group of businesses with over $50 million in profit.
- Andrew and Shaan swap stories about taking chances on people, including Shaan's hires of an apprentice plumber and a teenage programmer, and agree that fast follow-up and thinking bigger are signs of a winner.
- The conversation closes with Chris Sparling's five pillars of happiness, the value of doing real physical work, and a few podcast download stats from the team.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasA social following gives you optionality and a safety net.
Andrew says that after reaching 30,000–40,000 Twitter followers, he got his first 1,000 customers almost instantly, and that someone with a following could reboot after losing everything because no one can take it away.
Venture is a low-probability path that is often driven by ego.
Shaan compares venture-backed startups to going for the Olympics, saying the median result is near zero after years of underpaying yourself, while Andrew points out that paper billionaires are not liquid until an exit 10 to 15 years later.
Reinvesting profits into businesses can beat passive investing.
Andrew says passive investing might have returned 8–12%, but buying businesses at 3–10x earnings, using some debt, and doubling them within a couple of years produced roughly 40-some percent returns on small deals, which he expects to slow as deals get bigger.
Moving before you're ready can teach you the industry.
Andrew describes losing $800,000 on a restaurant, which led him to meet the neighbor whose restaurant stake he later bought, and he says people are too precious about hiring and should let people go if it doesn't work out.
Follow-up speed and gumption signal who will succeed.
Andrew cites Chris's test of whether someone follows up within 24 hours when the ball is in their court, and Shaan says the plumber's three months of silence was the red flag, whereas Johnny and Safwan kept pushing things forward.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
4 quotesThat's what's crazy about compounding, is you don't need to outperform massively. You just need to do, you know, a little better than everybody else. And if you do as well as everyone else, you're still good.
— Andrew Wilkinson
Too many people, um, think they're measuring twice but cutting once, and they just never cut. They just measure forever.
— Andrew Wilkinson
People are attracted to get rich quick, right? Nobody wants to get rich slow.
— Andrew Wilkinson
that's my favorite type of person to work with, is somebody who pushes my thinking on, like, couldn't we do this faster, or couldn't we do this bigger?
— Shaan Puri
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