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Asking A $100M/Year Founder For Profitable Business Ideas (#413)

No more small boy spreadsheets, build your business on the free HubSpot CRM: https://mfmpod.link/hrd - Episode 413: Sam Parr (https://twitter.com/theSamParr) and Shaan Puri (https://twitter.com/ShaanVP) talk with Anand Sanwal (https://twitter.com/asanwal) CEO and co-founder of CB Insights, about how Anand built his companies, the importance of data, small business niches that are growing, and much more. — Check Out Shaan's Stuff: • Shaan's weekly email - https://www.shaanpuri.com • Visit https://www.somewhere.com/mfm to hire global talent (like Shaan does) and get $500 off for being an MFM listener. Hire developers, assistants, marketing pros, sales teams and more for 80% less than their US equivalents. — Check Out Sam's Stuff: • Hampton - https://www.joinhampton.com/ • Ideation Bootcamp - https://www.ideationbootcamp.co/ • Copy That - https://copythat.com • Hampton Wealth Survey - https://joinhampton.com/wealth 💰 Pitch your startup for a shot at a $1M investment with Sam Parr as the MC https://clickhubspot.com/pitch ----- Links: * CB Insights - https://www.cbinsights.com * RebelGirls - https://www.rebelgirls.com/collections/books * USNews Best Colleges - https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges * McCormick Corporation - https://www.mccormickcorporation.com * Anand's Twitter - https://twitter.com/asanwal * How To Manage And Sell A Company In An Industry And A Country You Don’t Know - https://www.cbinsights.com/research/team-blog/run-sell-company/ 📧: Sign up for The Hustle Daily Newsletter: https://mfmpod.link/xon 🎙️: Download Our Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/Xq6lWi3m A podcast where we brainstorm new business ideas based on trends & opportunities we see in the market. Sometimes we have famous guests, and they do it with us. ------ Show Notes: (00:00) - Intro (00:40) - Anand's Background (04:01) - "Sawdust Data" businesses (08:17) - Tiny but growing niches (12:38) - Daily executive briefing email (17:32) - Pricing data business (24:06) - Broke & Busted College Rankings (30:33) - McCormick Spice Competitor (41:59) - How To Manage And Sell A Company In An Industry And A Country You Don’t Know (48:56) - Adani Group Collapse & spotting scams ----- For more quality videos subscribe here ➡https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyaN6mg5u8Cjy2ZI4ikWaug?sub_confirmation=1 🔔 Turn on notifications to stay updated with new uploads #shorts #youtubeshorts Like || Share || Subscribe

Shaan PurihostSam ParrhostAnand Sanwalguest
Jan 31, 20231h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

CB Insights Founder Pitches Data Business Ideas and Shares Hard-Won Lessons

  1. Anand Sanwal pitches data-centric business ideas such as monetizing 'sawdust data' exhaust, crawling opaque pricing, and ranking colleges by graduate earnings, using a framework of variable SKU, high consideration, and opacity.
  2. The hosts and Sanwal discuss daily executive briefing emails as a potentially huge business, with Sam Parr citing Politico Pro's reported 100 million-plus in recurring revenue as evidence it could be bigger than Sanwal's tens-of-millions estimate.
  3. Sanwal shares that underpricing early attracted bad customers, and that a consulting firm told him to add zeros to CB Insights' 395-a-month price, which taught him price signals quality.
  4. Sanwal tells the story of running and then selling his late father's fine-chemicals factory in India over 18 months, optimizing for protecting employees rather than maximum price, and warns that 'industry standard' is a red flag in negotiations.
  5. The conversation turns to the Adani allegations and spotting troubled or fraudulent companies, with Sanwal saying underperformance signals like executive turnover and 3X liquidation preferences are easier to detect than fraud, while Shaan Puri argues the same traits seen as genius pre-collapse become red flags afterward.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Look for variable SKU, opaque, high-consideration markets

Sanwal says markets where buyers risk real money, information is hard to find, and products can't be compared on a simple grid are where a messy data business can build a moat.

The messy-data advantage is willingness to do tedious work

Sanwal argues cleaning data requires pain tolerance, and that 99 out of 100 people won't do the manual work of collecting it, which protects the resulting asset.

Underpricing attracts the wrong customers

CB Insights started at 395 a month and drew churn-prone, support-heavy users; a consulting firm told Sanwal to add zeros, and prices are now orders of magnitude higher.

Data that needs frequent refresh keeps customers subscribed

Sanwal says volatile data that changes regularly drives ongoing subscriptions, whereas one-time data can be sold once, though it can still feed lead-gen or ad businesses.

Unsexy data and briefing businesses can be enormous

Sam Parr and Sanwal note that companies like Informa, Euromoney, Cision, and Politico Pro are build-once, sell-many businesses with high margins that attract little competition.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The messy data to clean data thing, that's just like you have to have a pain tolerance. That's all that is, right?

— Anand Sanwal

And, and the beauty of that business is 99 pe- out of, uh, 99 people out of 100 won't do that work.

— Anand Sanwal

There's no such thing as industry standard, right? Like, if it's, it's, if it's good for you, then it's what you should aim for.

— Anand Sanwal

it's always industry standard to the benefit of the person across the table. It's never industry standard and good for you.

— Anand Sanwal

So like s- like price is a indicator of quality, is an indicator of other things beyond just like the core value of the product.

— Anand Sanwal

Sawdust data businessesOpaque, high-consideration marketsDaily executive briefing emailsPricing data and underpricing lessonsCollege rankings by graduate earningsSelling a family factory in IndiaSpotting scams and red flags

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