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My First MillionBootstrapping A Small Agency Into A Billion Dollar Business Empire
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Andrew Wilkinson on Bootstrapping, Delegation, Incentives, Bad Actors and Copywriting
- Wilkinson says he built wealth through a boring, patient game of agencies and reinvesting about 70% of profits for 17 years, and notes Buffett made most of his wealth after 55.
- He has moved from a pro-bootstrapping stance to a nuanced one, comparing 100% ownership to a dictatorship with real speed and integrity benefits but also isolation and limited thinking.
- His management approach is 'hire 1 to hire 10': hire a CEO or executive who builds the team, and tie incentives to shared risk by making people put up their own money for equity.
- The hosts and Wilkinson explain why repeated success gets easier, pointing to pattern matching, lower market risk, simpler businesses, and confidence, while Wilkinson warns that charming con artists often keep winning.
- The conversation closes on copywriting, with praise for Wilkinson's fundraising email, the importance of a hooking first line, and Sam Parr's caution that great storytellers like Gladwell and Basecamp can make opinion sound like fact.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasSlow compounding beats flashy risk-taking
Wilkinson says his group stayed underestimated while reinvesting roughly 70% of profits for 17 years, and cites Buffett making 97% of his wealth after 55.
Agencies are low-burn ways to start
Wilkinson says you can win a contract first, then hire developers just in time, so there is little burn and no real need for an office; he says big agencies err by taking expensive offices.
Bootstrapping is a personality and situation choice, not a rule
Wilkinson used to believe every business should be bootstrapped but now says it is insane not to raise money when you have clear growth demand, like a bakery needing more ovens.
Hire one person who hires the ten
Wilkinson says acting like the VP of everything is a mistake; he hires a CEO or executive, delegates hiring entirely, and decides mainly who runs a business and how they are incentivized.
The losing incentive formula is misaligned risk
Wilkinson says problems arise when managers can use his money without any downside, so he now has people who want equity write a check or take a loan so they feel potential loss.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesYou should never, ever hire the 10 people. You should always focus on hiring the one person.
— Andrew Wilkinson
it requires being kind of underestimated and dismissed, and playing a very boring game while watching everyone else go and make, you know, tens of millions, billions of dollars taking risk in startups.
— Andrew Wilkinson
owning 100% or owning majority in your business, it's like a dictatorship, and dictatorships can be very good, uh, like Lee Kuan Yew from Singapore, or they can go terribly like Kim Jong Un, right?
— Andrew Wilkinson
I wake up and I'm in a sawmill, and I own 15 sawmills, and all I do all day is file papers. But there's still this part of me that beats myself up for not chopping wood.
— Andrew Wilkinson
beware of the 10 out of 10 pitch. Beware of the 10 out of 10-charm person that you wanna hire, or that's gonna help you with your business.
— Shaan Puri
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