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My First MillionHow This Billionaire Founder Finds +$20B Business Ideas | Kevin Ryan Interview (#495)
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Kevin Ryan on Building Billion-Dollar Companies Through His Studio Model
- Kevin Ryan recounts his path from DoubleClick, which Google bought for about $3 billion, to founding or co-founding Business Insider, MongoDB, Gilt, Zola and other companies through AlleyCorp.
- He says AlleyCorp's edge is not a secret method but deep industry research, including interviewing about 50 people over roughly two and a half months, followed by hiring strong CEOs and supporting them as chairman.
- Ryan looks for big, obvious, unsolved problems tied to ten-year trends such as healthcare, labor automation, maritime marketplaces, psychedelics and fertility, while avoiding mature areas like e-commerce and media.
- He prefers capital-intensive product companies over agencies or bootstrapped services, and is cautious on AI, calling near-term uses mundane while having his tech team spend a week studying it.
- Ryan stays out of social media, keeps a stable temperament that helped him negotiate the Business Insider sale at 11 times revenue, and holds about 90% of his net worth in his own firm with significant cash.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasMove fast when the idea is good
Ryan says DoubleClick expanded to 25 countries before its first country was profitable, which won global clients and a lasting market share. He argues people understate the risk of not acting, since others will come up with the same idea.
The studio model comes down to a good idea and a good team
Ryan says AlleyCorp did nothing special in detail, relying on deep research with 50-page write-ups, committed backing and recruiting great CEOs. He compares it to elite athletes whose moves are visible but hard to replicate.
Bet on ten-year trends, not next year's
Ryan says if something will happen next year it is already too late. He cites robotics and automation, psychedelics and MongoDB as ten-year bets, with rising labor costs and falling tech costs pushing automation.
Outsiders can see problems insiders accept
Ryan says someone from outside an industry may question 'that's just how it works.' He points to Henry Blodget at Business Insider, Gilt's team with no fashion experience, and the maritime deep dive.
Business Insider won by being fast and opinionated, then improving quality
Ryan describes updating stories through the day, A/B testing headlines, taking a point of view and building a loyal brand. He contrasts this with BuzzFeed, which he says never built a true brand people read daily.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesAny good idea I've come up with, eventually, even if it's six months later, three other people are gonna come up with the same idea. So you need to move quickly. Most people understand the risk of doing something. They understate the risk of not doing something.
— Kevin Ryan
You've gotta think of yourself as you are the coach, you are not the player. And if you're a coach, and if you manage to persuade LeBron James and Kevin Garnett and a bunch of people on your team, your team's gonna do well. That's actually the job.
— Kevin Ryan
What I am thinking about all the time, and everyone here does, is where is the world gonna be in ten years? That's the North Star for what we're doing. If something's gonna happen next year, it's too late.
— Kevin Ryan
The goal is that we are very successful, and that when I walk into a restaurant, no one knows who I am.
— Kevin Ryan
I think it's important to not get too emotional about any one company, and that's one of the things I can bring to the table. And when you're CEO, you're just so close to it. You're in the forest.
— Kevin Ryan
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