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Raoul Pal Explains Why He Went All In On Crypto

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Raoul Pal on Network Effects, Ethereum, NFTs and Life Design

  1. Raoul Pal describes his life philosophy, in which the real game is quality of life, and says he buys a Spanish house in cash around age 30 to feel he had won that game and could take bigger risks.
  2. He recounts moving from Goldman to a hedge fund, writing a monthly macro newsletter from Spain, and then seeking intellectual company through entrepreneurship, which led to Real Vision.
  3. Pal explains that he wrote the first macro piece on Bitcoin in 2013, sold after a 10X, and returned in 2019-2020 before shifting most of his holdings into Ethereum because of network effects.
  4. He argues crypto aligns network owners with network users, which creates network effects on top of network effects, and he says institutions are quietly moving toward Ethereum and Web3 rather than Bitcoin alone.
  5. Pal and Shaan Puri discuss NFTs, social tokens and music, with Pal arguing that tokenizing communities makes culture an investment and removes middlemen from artists' economics.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Pal treats life itself, not money, as the game.

He says he took steps toward a future vision of his life, and buying a six-bedroom house in Spain in cash around 1998 meant he had won the game and could take more risks.

Crypto aligns network owners with network users.

Pal contrasts Facebook, where shareholders make the money and users get utility, with crypto, where users can own the network. He calls this network effects upon network effects.

He moved from Bitcoin to Ethereum because of adoption and applications.

Pal sees Bitcoin as a one-sided store of value with few applications and a community that doesn't attract new people, while Ethereum looks to him like the internet.

Institutional money arrives as a flow, not a tidal wave.

Pal says he speaks regularly with large financial institutions whose interest moved from Bitcoin to Ethereum and then to Web3, and he expects a stampede once prices rise again.

Pal avoids yield on his Ethereum to protect what he has won.

He says staking or DeFi yields of 5% to 15% are not worth the risk of being rugged or hacked when he expects a much larger future return.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

My meta-narrative is the game is life itself. The game is not money. The game is quality of life and how you live it.

— Raoul Pal

The shareholders make the money, the network users get the utility. Along comes crypto. You marry the network user with the owner. Okay, now you've got network effects upon network effects.

— Raoul Pal

It's much easier to live in the future and look back and say, "How do I get here?" than stand here today and go, "I wanna go forward."

— Raoul Pal

It doesn't come as a tidal wave. It comes as a flow.

— Raoul Pal

Once you win something, you don't let somebody else take it away from you.

— Raoul Pal

Metcalfe's Law and network effectsQuality of life as the real gameBitcoin to Ethereum shiftInstitutional crypto adoptionNFTs and social tokensMusic industry and tokenized royaltiesHolding versus chasing yield

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