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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Pornhub's Game of Thrones Ownership Saga and Lessons on Obsessive Optimization
- Shaan Puri says Pornhub came out of the YouTube-era shift from paid DVD studios like Vivid to free tube sites, and that three Canadian friends won by building the platform and the content producer Brazzers together.
- The company passed through a chain of owners, from the founders' $140M sale to Fabian Thylmann (with a 20% interest loan), a $77M fire sale, Bernd Bergemeier, and finally Ethical Capital Partners.
- Puri says Bill Ackman, after reading an article about a teenager's leaked photos, got Visa to cut off Pornhub, which forced the site to change its policies and verify uploaders.
- One original founder went on to build Valsoft, a Constellation-style roll-up of small software companies, and the hosts note it doesn't mention Pornhub in its history.
- The hosts discuss how entertainment and internet businesses create a reality distortion field, with Max Levchin's lesson that any knob can be optimized to infinity, and Sam Parr argues that building jobs and a good workplace is a worthy product.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasOwning the platform and the content gave Pornhub its edge
Puri says Brazzers gave the founders content they owned, so they kept more material up when other sites' content was taken down, and the founders' SEO skills ranked them first on Google for porn and sex.
Controlling a hugely valuable asset made owners targets
Puri frames the story as a Game of Thrones throne: lawsuits sank earlier players, and Pornhub's owners faced seized funds, security fears, an arson attack, and tax trouble.
Payment processors are a powerful pressure point
According to Puri, Ackman could not pressure a private offshore owner, so he texted Visa's CEO, and Visa and MasterCard cut off Pornhub within a day, forcing policy changes.
Reported profits can hide a company's true economics
Puri says Pornhub shows almost no profit because the owner lends money to it and takes out debt payments, while revenue is shifted across shell subsidiaries.
Notorious beginnings can lead to a respectable second act
Puri describes how a founder who left after a stressful sale studied investing, followed the Constellation Software playbook, and built a billion-dollar group buying small profitable software firms.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesyou can get in this reality distortion field where you feel like you're doing God's work out there. And that's what happens at all these companies, dude.
— Shaan Puri
You don't need a life-changing thing all the time to have a badass thing
— Sam Parr
So I don't think that your product necessarily has to be the thing you're selling, but the thing you're building.
— Sam Parr
Hell hath no fury like Bill Ackman scorned, right?
— Shaan Puri
It's like, if you can't sell boobies, you can't sell anything, dude.
— Shaan Puri
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