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My First Million

You’re probably sleepwalking through life (here's how to wake up) - Robert Greene

*Get Sam's top 9 books for entrepreneurs (+ his reading strategy):* Episode 881: Shaan Puri and Sam Parr talk to Robert Greene about living a more meaningful life.

Shaan PurihostRobert GreeneguestGreat Minds Sam Parrhost

Nov 11, 20261h 20mWatch on YouTube

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Why “Sublime” grew out of suffering, tech narrowness, and a near-death wake-up call
Shaan contrasts Robert Greene’s earlier books about power, seduction, and mastery with his new book, "Sublime," which Greene frames as almost the opposite: letting go and reconnecting. Greene explains that coming close to death reshaped how the world felt to him, and he wrote the book to help others access that sense of aliveness without a crisis.
- •Shaan highlights the contrast between Greene’s earlier themes (power/control) and “Sublime” (letting go, being small).
- •Greene says the book is rooted in personal experience, including nearly dying years earlier.
- •He argues people are suffering from the narrowness of experience, much of it driven by technology.
- •Greene describes a widespread hunger for something larger than daily struggle.
- •He frames the book as practical: ways to bring “sublime” experiences into everyday life and reduce disconnection from self, others, and environment.
“Everything is amazing and nobody is happy”: is this era actually different?
Sam brings up the idea that people complain across generations and asks whether this time is truly unique—and how to be happy. Greene argues it’s hard to quantify across eras, but suggests modern technology (and especially AI fears) creates a new kind of powerlessness that may be distinct.
- •Sam references recurring historical complaints about “kids these days,” and asks whether today is different.
- •Greene notes past eras used heavy drinking and cigarettes as equivalents to modern coping tools.
- •He says modern tech and social media can “rewire” minds and reduce agency by programming what people see and feel.
- •Greene links today’s mood to a sense of being taken on a ride by technology.
- •He adds that AI intensifies fears about losing control, while acknowledging he can’t prove it with data.
Phone addiction and the loss of situational awareness in everyday life
Shaan and Sam describe widespread smartphone addiction and how dominant it feels in daily life. Greene agrees and uses an outdoor example—people staring at phones in beautiful scenery—to argue that disconnection from surroundings is deeply troubling.
- •Shaan proposes a thought experiment: most adults have smartphones, and many use them more than they want to.
- •Sam calls himself an addict and says it’s common in his circles.
- •Greene describes biking in nature and seeing people still glued to phones while walking outside.
- •He says health requires observation and connection to environment—“situational awareness.”
- •Greene argues fast, effortless stimulation is reshaping expectations (patience, reading, writing) and worries about the consequences.
“Go outside”: forcing attention outward to expand the circle of experience
Greene offers a blunt, practical reset: leave the phone behind and go into nature with no access to the feed. He argues that the discomfort of withdrawal can redirect attention to the body, the senses, and the non-human world, which can reopen the feeling of awe.
- •Greene proposes going into nature and locking the phone away to break the loop.
- •He describes the initial “withdrawal” urge to check news, sports, and updates.
- •He argues physical movement and exposure to scale (like mountains) can trigger awe.
- •Greene explains that after his stroke limited travel, he had to find sublimity in immediate surroundings.
- •He says the book draws on science and includes exercises per chapter to help people practice these shifts.
Feeling flat and chasing stimulation: why getting what you want still doesn’t satisfy
Shaan asks why adults feel flat inside and keep chasing achievements that don’t fix the feeling. Greene explains this as an addiction to external stimulation fueled by a restless mind, and contrasts it with experiences that are internally generated and owned.
- •Greene describes the mind as restless and meditation as revealing how nonstop thoughts are.
- •He argues modern life makes external stimulation instantly available (streaming, phones), which leaves people emptier and wanting more.
- •He notes even travel can become another external fix if you bring your anxious patterns with you.
- •Greene distinguishes experiences that are “yours” (love, animals, adventure, absorbed attention) from algorithm-driven inputs.
- •He insists some feelings—like the effort and uplift of climbing—can’t be replicated through a phone experience.
“Measure yourself against the immense and the impossible”: purpose under extreme pressure
Asked for stories, Greene introduces a chapter centered on confronting the impossible and discovering hidden human capacities. He tells the Andes plane-crash survival story, emphasizing how purpose and determination can unlock extraordinary persistence and resourcefulness.
- •Greene presents the idea that humans have powers and skills they don’t realize until forced by necessity.
- •He recounts the 1970s Andes crash involving a rugby team and severe survival conditions.
- •He describes starvation, extreme cold, and the group’s decision to eat the dead to survive.
- •Greene focuses on Nando Parrado’s purpose—getting back to his father—as the driver of his climb.
- •He frames the story as evidence that perceived limits can collapse in truly impossible situations.
Purpose as a survival mechanism—and Greene’s own sense of mission
The conversation shifts from extreme survival stories to the role of purpose in enduring hardship. Greene cites Viktor Frankl’s idea that purpose helps people survive, then explains his own purpose: writing, the origins of "The 48 Laws of Power," and why surviving his medical crisis felt like a mandate to write "Sublime."
- •Sam shares how reading extreme survival stories reframed his sense of what he can handle in life.
- •Greene references Viktor Frankl’s view that people survive horror better when they have a reason to live.
- •Shaan asks Greene directly about his personal purpose.
- •Greene recounts years of miserable jobs while holding onto the goal of becoming a writer.
- •He describes surviving a medical emergency, interpreting it as a reason to finish one more major book despite limitations.
A “Power” course distilled: say less, disappear, and manage presence on social media
Shaan asks what the first lesson in a power course would be, and Greene chooses “say less than necessary,” linking it to withholding and strategic absence. He explains how he applies this even while promoting work, and argues that disappearing creates mystery in an attention economy.
- •Greene’s core principle: people talk too much and reveal too much, especially in the social era.
- •He describes power as a balance of presence and absence—disappear sometimes to regain attention.
- •He adds early “course” themes like managing egos and avoiding inadvertently offending the wrong person.
- •Sam challenges how this applies when you’re trying to promote content; Greene says he avoids sharing private-life details.
- •Greene argues strategic withdrawal prevents audiences from getting bored and helps sustain interest.
AI outlook: public resentment, human dark side, and the risk of mental atrophy
Sam asks Greene for a 10-year AI prediction; Greene answers as a self-described pessimist. He predicts political backlash and regulation pressures, and worries that the dark side of human nature will weaponize AI while weakening young people’s capacity for disciplined thinking.
- •Greene predicts deep public fear and resentment could translate into political demands to regulate AI.
- •He argues new technologies are shaped by human creators, including irrationality, envy, and short-sightedness.
- •He cites escalating scams and imagines worse abuse enabled by AI over time.
- •He worries about access to dangerous information and the possibility of catastrophic misuse.
- •Greene emphasizes fear that reliance on AI will erode independent thinking, patience, and skills like writing and reading long books.
Handwriting “Sublime” through disability: notebooks, rewrites, dictation, and relentless editing
Prompted by questions about his craft, Greene describes the physically demanding process of writing "Sublime" after losing typical typing ability. He explains a multi-pass workflow—writing, rewriting, dictating, printing, and hand-editing—while the hosts react to the scale of effort and time involved.
- •Greene says he did not use AI for major research, only occasional small fact checks via search.
- •He details writing in one notebook, rewriting into another while editing, and repeating multiple times.
- •He estimates accumulating a very large number of notebooks from the process.
- •Greene describes dictating drafts, printing them, and hand-editing on paper before dictating again.
- •He explains eventually editing on a computer with one hand, which Shaan links to why the book took years.
Near-death experiences, psychedelics, and how the brain constructs reality
Shaan asks what people tend to find in near-death experience accounts, and Greene summarizes patterns from the literature and his book’s “death sublime” chapter. He discusses positive versus hellish experiences, skeptical explanations, and how near-death states reveal that the brain constructs perceived reality—then compares it, cautiously, to psychedelics.
- •Greene says near-death experiences vary widely, with many described as positive and some as terrifying.
- •He describes reports of religious imagery, life review, tunnels, and transformative shifts even in skeptics.
- •He references a skeptical neuroscientific explanation: the dying brain alters perception, time, and sensation.
- •Greene says his own experience left lingering sensory memories, like an intensified perception of the sky that returns in waves.
- •He compares it to psychedelics in the sense of removing a “familiarity filter,” but distinguishes his perception as feeling like seeing what’s truly there.
Mythic leadership and charisma: aura, confidence, troubled origins, and what can be taught
The hosts ask about “mythic” leadership—the hard-to-define quality that rallies people beyond policies—drawing examples from politics and sports. Greene discusses charisma as a media-age necessity, how it often arises from troubled backgrounds and inner intensity, and argues confidence is the most teachable core of charisma.
- •Greene argues leadership needs a larger-than-life, camera-ready quality and a unifying myth, not only policy lists.
- •He discusses JFK’s deliberate TV-era image-building and how presence can outweigh content in perception.
- •Shaan connects “aura” to nonverbal charisma and gives sports examples where certainty and simplicity rally belief.
- •Greene says many charismatic figures come from painful childhoods, creating a hunger for attention and love from the public.
- •He claims confidence is the most charismatic trait; it can be cultivated to a degree, though extreme charisma often depends on circumstances.
Greatness vs goodness: role models, ethical outliers, and creating what you truly want to express
Shaan and Sam probe the cost of charisma and whether greatness often comes with brokenness or narcissism. Greene argues that many great creators aren’t saints, then offers examples of people he admires as both successful and decent, and closes with his philosophy: write what you feel called to express and trust it will find its audience.
- •Shaan reflects on the tension between confidence and external validation, and how charisma can look like a wound.
- •Greene argues it’s unrealistic to expect great achievers to be paragons of virtue, citing difficult personalities as still valuable creators.
- •Asked for ethical “whole person” examples, Greene names his former mentee Ryan Holiday as successful and decent.
- •He also describes NBA coach Mark Daigneault as strategic, empathetic, and high-character, linking this to the importance of social skills in mastery.
- •Greene and Shaan discuss creating work that’s “cool to you,” accepting that it may not be the most marketable, and committing to expression over guarantees.

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