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Tira, Bombay Shaving Co., Inde Wild | WTF is Fueling India’s Beauty & Skincare Revolution? | Ep. 25

Three founders leading India’s skincare wave – Bhakti Modi (Tira), Shantanu Deshpande (Bombay Shaving Company), and Diipa Khosla (Inde Wild) join me to share the highs and lows of building beauty and skincare brands and the trends shaping this booming industry.  Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:39 - Bhakti’s journey & love story 05:14 - Diipa’s road to Inde Wild 10:34 - Persona’s role in brand building 15:07 - How Shantanu started 20:48 - Valuations & industry secrets 27:30 - Decoding the salon industry 34:58 - How Inde Wild made Champi cool again 38:01 - Market size & shifting narratives 45:14 - Marketing quality & building a community 52:41 - Why fragrance is exploding 1:00:42 - Community’s role in branding 1:08:04 - Cracking the BPC industry 1:22:26 - Omnichannel: A must-have? 1:27:15 - Tariffs, growth & social selling 1:31:00 - Can Indian brands go global? 1:34:51 - Cracking influencer marketing 1:42:15 - Sampling, distribution & minis 1:48:07 - Sustainability: Do founders still care? 1:52:54 - What’s the next wave? 2:04:39 - How the world perceives India 2:09:48 - Tech’s role in customising 2:16:10 - Nikhil’s & Diipa’s tattoos 2:18:14 - Why founders need grit 2:19:47 - Bhakti & Tira’s origin story 2:34:10 - Inside Tira: From concept to customer 2:38:34 - Do celebrity brands work? 2:44:51 - Why Diipa started Inde Wild 2:48:25 - Mass, premium, prestige: Which segment is winning? 3:05:45 - Quick commerce & Tier 2 markets 3:11:11 - Ayurveda: Still a novelty? 3:14:43 - The making of Bombay Shaving Company 3:21:39 - From idea to product: Manufacturing & patents 3:30:14 - Advice to aspiring skincare founders #NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur Twitter: [https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g) Bhakti Modi - CEO, Tira Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bhaktim679/?hl=en LinkedIn: https://in.linkedin.com/in/bhakti-modi-98a32293 Diipa Khosla - Founder, Inde Wild Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diipakhosla/?hl=en LinkedIn: https://in.linkedin.com/in/diipa-khosla#:~:text=Diipa%20Khosla%20is%20the%20first,Bridal%20magazine%3A%20Cond%C3%A9%20Nast%20Brides. Website: https://india.indewild.com/?utm_campaign=nikhil-kamath&utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=Youtube&utm_content=&utm_term= Shantanu Deshpande - Founder, Bombay Shaving Company Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shantanudeshpandeunofficial/?hl=en LinkedIn: https://in.linkedin.com/in/shantanudeshpandebsc

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Sep 20, 20253h 36mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Setting the stage: India’s beauty boom & category confusion (BPC vs beauty)

    The conversation opens with quick banter that immediately surfaces a core theme: people often mix up “beauty” and broader “beauty & personal care (BPC).” This sets up the episode’s goal—mapping the market (skincare, hair, makeup, fragrance) and unpacking what’s driving the current surge.

  2. Bhakti Modi’s journey: retail apprenticeship, relationships, and learning the craft of selling

    Bhakti shares her personal path—from education and early career to her marriage and the values that shaped her. Her story emphasizes “learning by doing,” including frontline retail experience, and how those lessons informed her leadership style later.

  3. Diipa Khosla’s path: Delhi → Ooty boarding school → Amsterdam → creator economy → founder

    Diipa explains how global exposure shaped her identity and career choices. She details the pivot from studying law to early-stage blogging/Instagram, building a large audience, and using that community as a launchpad for Inde Wild.

  4. Founder persona as a growth lever: being the face, owning the narrative, and earned distribution

    The group debates how much a founder’s public profile matters, especially in categories with low inherent conversation (e.g., shaving). They explore “founder-led media” as a substitute for large advertising budgets and as a credibility engine for new brands.

  5. Shantanu Deshpande’s journey: McKinsey, consulting’s changing role, and building Bombay Shaving Co.

    Shantanu shares his background and how the consumer/internet infrastructure wave enabled a new generation of D2C brands. He explains Bombay Shaving Company’s evolution from premium shaving to broader grooming, profitability, and scale.

  6. Valuations, segments, and what “premium” really means in India

    They unpack valuation heuristics in beauty, and how multiples shift as businesses become profitable. The panel defines mass/premium/prestige and debates where brands like Minimalist sit, plus how consumer willingness to pay is changing.

  7. Salon industry decoded: distribution power, exclusivity, training, and the Gen Z shift to ‘salon at home’

    Bhakti explains how professional hair brands historically grew via salons through exclusive placements, treatment menus, and stylist trust. Diipa argues Gen Z increasingly prefers high-performance products at home, driven by ingredient literacy and fast delivery.

  8. How Inde Wild made ‘Champi’ cool again: nostalgia + ritual + new identity

    Diipa breaks down how a culturally loaded practice (hair oiling) was reframed from childhood discomfort to a modern, shareable ritual. “Sunday Champi” becomes both habit and community event, aligning with Gen Z aesthetics and self-expression.

  9. Market sizing & India’s shifting narrative: Western quality, Indian identity, and what’s growing fastest

    They put numbers to India’s BPC market and discuss how consumer preference is changing. The debate: Indians still want Western-grade standards, but increasingly prefer storytelling and identity that reflects them.

  10. Marketing quality: hero products, content-first brands, and building real community (offline + online)

    The group treats community as more than a buzzword—shared values, repeat choice, and two-way listening loops. They outline how a new founder can start small through events, co-creation, and focused hero-product storytelling.

  11. Why fragrance is exploding: ‘wardrobing,’ layering, clean ingredient scrutiny, and the ₹1,000–₹10,000 gap

    They explain why fragrance is seeing outsized excitement: new consumption patterns (multiple minis, moods, layering) and a large mid-market opportunity between cheap dupes and ultra-luxury. They also touch on ingredient transparency challenges and Indian climate needs (longevity).

  12. Cracking BPC go-to-market: omnichannel, quick commerce, tariffs, and social selling (TikTok/Douyin)

    They zoom out to distribution strategy: omnichannel is framed as essential for scaling, while quick commerce and social commerce reshape discovery and purchase. International complexities like tariffs and manufacturing locations also influence growth decisions.

  13. Influencer marketing that converts: PR seeding, micro/nano creators, and packaging-as-content

    They discuss how to drive marketing when you don’t have a big following—starting with micro/nano influencers and earning posts through strong product, personalization, and unboxing experiences. The panel shares rough conversion expectations and why mega influencers are better for awareness than sales early on.

  14. Sampling, minis, and experiential retail: how trial drives premium adoption

    Sampling is framed as underused leverage—especially when executed with context and relevance. They highlight minis as a major India-specific bridge from aspiration to purchase and discuss in-store gamified sampling and where sampling tends to work best.

  15. Sustainability debate: table stakes, skepticism, and how founders should communicate it

    They debate whether sustainability still sells or has become baseline hygiene. The consensus leans toward: do it, don’t overclaim, and be transparent about trade-offs, especially given consumer skepticism and fear of being “called out.”

  16. What’s the next wave: skinimalism, multi-functional ‘skinified’ makeup, microtrends, and India’s global advantage

    They predict the next growth drivers: simplified routines (“skinimalism”), multifunction products, and fast-moving microtrends that help reframe existing SKUs. They also argue India has a global right-to-win in hair, Ayurveda/wellness, and culturally rooted storytelling—if brands build for the world, not just India.

  17. From idea to product: manufacturers, trade shows, MOQs, IP realities, and founder advice

    They end with practical execution: where to find manufacturers, how to handle minimum order quantities, and what’s realistic to protect through patents vs trade secrets. The closing advice centers on clarity of ‘why,’ hero products, team quality, patience, and grit.

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