No Priors Ep. 123 | With ReflectionAI Co-Founder and CEO Misha Laskin

ℹ️ EPISODE INFO

Released

July 17, 2025

Duration

1h 2m

Channel

No Priors

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📝 EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Superintelligence, at least in an academic sense, has already been achieved. But Misha Laskin thinks that the next step towards artificial superintelligence, or ASI, should look both more user and problem-focused. ReflectionAI co-founder and CEO Misha Laskin joins Sarah Guo to introduce Asimov, their new code comprehension agent built on reinforcement learning (RL). Misha talks about creating tools and designing AI agents based on customer needs, and how that influences eval development and the scope of the agent’s memory. The two also discuss the challenges in solving scaling for RL, the future of ASI, and the implications for Google’s “non-acquisition” of Windsurf. Sign up for new podcasts every week. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com Follow us on Twitter: @NoPriorsPod | @Saranormous | @EladGil | @MishaLaskin | @reflection_ai Chapters: 00:00 – Misha Laskin Introduction 00:44 – Superintelligence vs. Super Intelligent Autonomous Systems 03:26 – Misha’s Journey from Physics to AI 07:48 – Asimov Product Release 11:52 – What Differentiates Asimov from Other Agents 16:15 – Asimov’s Eval Philosophy 21:52 – The Types of Queries Where Asimov Shines 24:35 – Designing a Team-Wide Memory for Asimov 28:38 – Leveraging Pre-Trained Models 32:47 – The Challenges of Solving Scaling in RL 37:21 – Training Agents in Copycat Software Environments 38:25 – When Will We See ASI? 44:27 – Thoughts on Windsurf’s Non-Acquisition 48:10 – Exploring Non-RL Datasets 55:12 – Tackling Problems Beyond Engineering and Coding 57:54 – Where We’re At in Deploying ASI in Different Fields 01:02:30 – Conclusion

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• Sarah Guo

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• Misha Laskin

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🧾 EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of No Priors, featuring Sarah Guo and Misha Laskin, No Priors Ep. 123 | With ReflectionAI Co-Founder and CEO Misha Laskin explores reflectionAI Bets on RL to Build Code-Comprehension Superintelligence ReflectionAI co-founder and CEO Misha Laskin explains his vision for building superintelligent autonomous systems by tightly co-designing research and product, starting with coding inside complex organizations.

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