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On with Kara SwisherTrump says American cities are "cesspools." These mayors have receipts.
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CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 5:31
Mayors on bipartisan problem-solving: migrants, Super Bowl logistics, and housing enforcement
Kara Swisher opens with three Democratic mayors and asks for moments when they overcame partisan divides. The mayors describe where cooperation was possible—and where state-level politics felt punitive or obstructive.
- •Denver’s mayor describes finding left-right agreement around getting migrants the ability to work and support themselves
- •New Orleans’ mayor points to coordinated work with state and federal partners to host the Super Bowl, while also describing retaliatory state actions afterward
- •Kansas City’s mayor highlights state and federal alignment on the World Cup bid process and surprising cooperation around cracking down on abusive landlords
- •The mayors contrast ideological fights in Washington with practical, on-the-ground city governance
- 5:31 – 7:25
Responding to “cities are cesspools”: confidence, investment, and lived reality
Kara raises President Trump’s rhetoric about cities being “rotting” and “cesspools of blood,” asking how it affects governance. Denver’s mayor argues the claims are noise but can still damage perception, and says results are the best rebuttal.
- •Denver’s mayor says negative narratives can erode confidence in living, visiting, or investing in cities
- •He points to Denver’s outcomes during a period of high migrant arrivals, including declines in serious crime and homelessness
- •Kara discusses how outsized media narratives can diverge from what visitors experience on the ground
- •The conversation emphasizes telling a “different story” through measurable results and downtown vibrancy
- 7:25 – 10:43
New Orleans and the National Guard: safety, tourism optics, and prevention spending
Kara asks about the extended National Guard deployment to New Orleans and its real impact. Helena Moreno explains the city is accustomed to Guard support for major events and storms, but the prolonged presence raised questions about purpose and optics.
- •The mayor explains the Guard’s typical role during Mardi Gras season, major sporting events, and hurricane preparation
- •She discusses concerns that a visible military posture could affect tourism perceptions, though she says numbers didn’t drop
- •She describes coordination challenges: ensuring the Guard’s deployment meaningfully supports local policing
- •She credits safety gains to a coordinated strategy that includes prevention spending alongside law enforcement
- 10:43 – 13:25
Kansas City’s World Cup boost: jobs, public safety costs, and city brand building
Kara asks what global events do for a city’s profile and why it matters. Quinton Lucas argues that while costs and logistics are real, the long-term value of brand attention and proving capacity can be significant.
- •The mayor frames major events as job creators, especially in service and event-related work
- •He notes public safety and overtime costs, often supported by statewide law enforcement resources
- •He argues that “brand” and global attention can reshape how a city is perceived and considered for future investment
- •He says the city prefers spending on projects that build future capacity rather than one-off efforts
- 13:25 – 18:14
Big bets in local economic development: aerospace, critical materials, and transit-linked districts
Kara asks each mayor to name revitalization projects with the most promise. The mayors highlight large, multi-part initiatives tying economic growth to infrastructure, education, and long-term city planning.
- •New Orleans highlights work around a NASA facility, an innovation zone, and a major port expansion corridor
- •The city discusses interest in integrating AI into port operations and building an educational pipeline around it
- •Kansas City describes building a critical materials campus tied to university research and new federal grants
- •Denver’s mayor outlines a multi-project “Mile High Line” plan linking stadiums, parks, housing, climate goals, and light rail connectivity
- 18:14 – 23:43
Pete Buttigieg’s question: which mayors are they copying—and how communication is evolving
A question from Pete Buttigieg prompts the mayors to share what they’re borrowing from other cities. They discuss copying tactics on women’s sports facilities, homelessness strategy, and visible “small fixes” that residents can see.
- •Kansas City’s mayor points to Boston’s approach to building a campus around women’s soccer and broader women’s sports investment
- •He also says mayors are learning to modernize communication strategies rather than complain about attention
- •Denver’s mayor credits former Houston mayor Sylvester Turner for a geographic approach to closing encampments and keeping areas closed to future camping
- •New Orleans’ mayor describes taking ideas from San Francisco’s approach to outreach and also mentions adopting a repair “strike team” concept for parks and recreation spaces
- 23:43 – 30:22
Why cities are rejecting AI data centers: utilities, zoning, transparency, and backlash
Kara pivots to the growing backlash against AI data centers and asks how cities weigh economic gains against environmental and quality-of-life costs. The mayors describe public distrust, resource constraints, and the need for clearer rules and transparency.
- •Kansas City’s mayor says data centers have become a major flashpoint on both left and right, requiring better explanation of impacts and benefits
- •Denver’s mayor describes a city moratorium, citing water use, electricity affordability, noise, and a zoning code not designed for data centers
- •He argues data centers don’t need to be in dense city centers and suggests an urban-rural partnership model
- •New Orleans’ mayor describes a temporary ban pending planning study, citing a fragile grid and distrust fueled by NDAs and lack of transparency
- 30:22 – 36:31
Affordable housing and homelessness: trust funds, transitional units, and keeping people housed
Kara shifts into housing policy, pressing on whether initiatives increase affordable housing stock and reduce homelessness. Kansas City and Denver describe multi-part approaches that combine funding, regulatory changes, and service delivery models.
- •Kansas City’s mayor says housing must be treated as core economic development, not just a pass-through of federal dollars
- •He emphasizes density, “gap filling” financing, and building housing for a broader middle-income range
- •Denver’s mayor describes scaling transitional housing quickly through hotels and tiny home villages and then closing encampments geographically
- •He says Denver decentralized services away from downtown and reports large numbers moved from the street into transitional and then permanent housing
- 36:31 – 42:55
Debating ‘forced treatment’ vs ‘housing first’: what works and why
Kara raises reporting about shifts away from housing-first approaches and asks how forced treatment policies affect cities. The mayors argue about practicality, human complexity, and whether coercion improves outcomes.
- •New Orleans’ mayor describes a new state law trajectory that can push people toward jail and says the city needs better post-housing services to prevent returns to the street
- •Kansas City’s mayor says some enforcement can play a role but warns against ineffective ‘streaming people from place to place’ without services
- •Denver’s mayor strongly argues housing-first works better, saying homelessness can drive addiction and mental health crises
- •He adds that delivering services is more effective and less wasteful once someone is in stable housing
- 42:55 – 47:55
Mayors push back against ICE: sanctuary limits, detention centers, and economic fallout
Kara turns to immigration enforcement and asks how cities respond when state and federal approaches clash with local priorities. The mayors describe using executive actions and local ordinances to resist policies they view as harmful or inhumane.
- •New Orleans’ mayor explains an executive order limiting new partnerships with ICE and says people were targeted based on appearance, sometimes including citizens
- •She says enforcement actions also created economic disruption as businesses struggled to find workers
- •Kansas City’s mayor describes opposing a proposed ICE detention center as inhumane and says classic planning rules helped block it
- •He argues the broader strategy is driven by fear, and rejects the claim that immigrants are the main public safety threat
- 47:55 – 51:18
Denver’s migrant response and the DOJ lawsuit: pro-immigrant identity and targeted enforcement
Kara asks Denver’s mayor about the DOJ lawsuit and how he frames the city’s approach to migrants. He describes welcoming immigration while cooperating on enforcement against violent criminals.
- •Denver’s mayor argues great American cities build their identities on being pro-immigrant and pro-growth
- •He says there is still a role for federal partnership around enforcement focused on violent criminals
- •He describes multi-jurisdictional work targeting alleged gang or cartel members while maintaining a welcoming posture for law-abiding residents
- •He ties the approach to both economic growth and rebutting claims that immigration drives crime
- 51:18 – 55:51
Gerrymandering and voting rights: Louisiana’s lost district and Missouri’s map fights
Kara moves to election rules, representation, and the impact of redistricting decisions. Helena Moreno discusses disenfranchisement concerns in Louisiana, while Quinton Lucas argues gerrymandering harms competition and community representation.
- •New Orleans’ mayor says the loss of a majority-Black district risks voters feeling their voices don’t matter, and urges turnout as the counter
- •She describes large public mobilization that still failed to change legislative outcomes
- •Kansas City’s mayor argues map-drawing is increasingly about removing competition entirely, not just protecting incumbents
- •He says the process can reduce representation, disrupt congressional seniority, and prioritize partisan games over resources for communities
- 55:51 – 1:00:13
Preparing for election threats: vote-by-mail, poll protection, and countering confusion
Kara asks what role mayors can play amid threats to election administration and misinformation. The mayors describe planning for scenarios, defending voting access, and combating intentional voter confusion.
- •Denver’s mayor praises vote-by-mail and describes tabletop exercises for potential disruptions and intimidation tactics
- •He says the goal of federal rhetoric is to cast doubt on results and reduce turnout through fear
- •New Orleans’ mayor describes confusion created by changing primary rules and how it affected voters’ experiences at polls
- •Kansas City’s mayor says cities can provide voter information, pursue legal challenges, and visibly support residents’ ability to vote
- 1:00:13 – 1:08:42
Can mayors fix Democrats’ message? Delivering results, local credibility, and everyday issues
Kara closes by asking about tensions within the Democratic Party and how mayors can shape national messaging. The mayors argue voters respond to tangible results and practical problem-solving over abstract or disconnected political debates.
- •Denver’s mayor says frustration with Washington fuels insurgent energy, but city governance is judged by real outcomes like safety and homelessness
- •Kansas City’s mayor says mayors balance competing constituencies, make decisions fast, and can credibly communicate successes
- •Denver’s mayor argues engagement grows when people see problems get solved and feel they can work together rather than turn on each other
- •New Orleans’ mayor says messaging should focus on daily-life issues like infrastructure, affordability, and schools—and explain how investment improves residents’ lives