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Origin Story w/ David McIntosh JrEx-Banking CEO (RBS and Tesco Bank): Benny Higgins on Power, Money, Art & What Really Matters
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At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Benny Higgins on roots, leadership, culture, ambition, and identity enduring
- Higgins describes growing up in Toryglen’s tower blocks as tough but loving, and credits school, football, and pride in learning for building confidence and determination.
- He explains how sport and the arts both trained his leadership style—teamwork, presence, rhythm, form—and argues society falsely separates humanities from maths and science.
- He traces a career from rapid actuarial qualification to major roles at RBS (including the NatWest hostile takeover integration) and building Tesco Bank from scratch to millions of customers.
- He emphasizes leadership as relationship-based and experience-driven, repeatedly hiring trusted, known talent over “perfect” CVs and preparing intensely even when he appears relaxed.
- The conversation returns to identity and meaning: staying rooted (accent, treating everyone the same), feeding curiosity through books and culture, and prioritizing self-respect over external approval.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasEarly environments can be harsh without being destiny-defining.
Higgins calls the tower-block “experiment” a mistake but credits loving parents, strong schools, and football for giving him stability and confidence despite a tough community context.
Leadership lessons often arrive before formal management roles.
Captaining Celtic youth teams and living inside competitive sport taught him credibility, presence, and team dynamics—skills later validated in leadership assessments.
Stop treating arts and sciences as opposites; they reinforce each other.
He links maths to poetry, art, and music through shape, rhythm, and form, arguing the real advantage is seeing connectedness across domains.
Competitiveness can be fuel—if paired with deliberate choices about the future.
He pursued actuarial exams largely because they were respected and hard, then finished in 2.5 years to distinguish himself rather than drift in a seven-year norm.
The “thing you prepare for that doesn’t happen” can enable what does.
RBS’s rehearsal for a Barclays bid built the muscle memory and readiness that helped when NatWest became the real contest.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesI travel with the indelible mark of being a Glaswegian, and Kelvingrove in some ways brings together not all of the elements, but some of the important elements of my story.
— Benny Higgins
Don't underestimate the power of sport in how you think about leadership.
— Benny Higgins
Let's never c- c- confuse intelligence with education. Um, intelligent people might not be educated, and educated pe- might n- might not be that intelligent.
— Benny Higgins
Just me. Yeah. No, that's definitely the only... I, I have no... If I can make my... If I can be proud of my own actions, um, everybody else can make their own mind up.
— Benny Higgins
And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
— Benny Higgins
SPEAKERS
David McIntosh Jr
hostPodcast host of Origin Story who interviews guests about their life and career.
Benny Higgins
guestFormer banking executive associated with RBS and founding/building Tesco Bank.
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