Peter Attia MD174-The 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks: reflections on how they happened & lessons learned
At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Lawrence Wright Traces Al-Qaeda's Roots and America's 9/11 Intelligence Failures
- Wright and Attia recall their personal experiences of 9/11 and discuss how the attacks ended America's sense of invulnerability and produced a security state that Wright says abridges Americans' own freedom.
- Wright traces Al-Qaeda's ideological roots through Sayyid Qutb, Nasser's and Sadat's Egypt, the torture of imprisoned Islamists, and Ayman al-Zawahiri's path from medical student to jihadist organizer.
- The conversation covers Osama bin Laden's upbringing as the son of a famed Saudi contractor, his inflated image after Afghanistan, and his anger at the American troop presence in Saudi Arabia after Iraq invaded Kuwait.
- Wright argues the CIA hid information about two Al-Qaeda operatives in the US from the FBI, and that personal feuds, bureaucratic walls, and a lack of accountability enabled 9/11.
- Looking forward, Wright warns of expanding Al-Qaeda affiliates, drones, and biological threats, and says America squandered the opportunity 9/11 offered, doing more harm to itself than the attackers did.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideas9/11 shattered American invulnerability and reshaped the country.
Wright says young people no longer know pre-9/11 America, and that the security state is an abridgment of freedom Americans impose on themselves, one he hopes the country can steer back from.
Humiliation is a powerful driver of radicalism.
Wright points to the 1967 war, Qutb's imprisonment, the torture of Zawahiri and others after Sadat's assassination, and Saudi reliance on foreign troops as humiliations that fueled the movement.
Qutb's execution and the idea of takfir opened the door to terrorism.
Wright says Qutb's martyrdom made him a symbol against Arab dictatorships, and the doctrine of declaring other Muslims non-believers gave Zawahiri and bin Laden permission to kill.
Bin Laden turned a nationalist jihadist movement into an international terror group.
Wright says bin Laden's resentment of the US presence in Saudi Arabia led him to redirect groups like Zawahiri's from toppling local rulers to attacking America, which he came to see as the near enemy.
The CIA withheld key information from the FBI.
Wright says the CIA knew by March 2000 that two Al-Qaeda members were in the US and hid the Kuala Lumpur meeting from the FBI during the Cole investigation, and he holds the CIA responsible for 9/11 not being prevented.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesWe've built up a security state, and we've been so deeply involved with the rest of the world in an antagonistic manner since then, and that has become normal but is an aberration in our history.
— Lawrence Wright
I think we've, we, we don't understand clearly the role of humiliation in human affairs. But it's very powerful.
— Lawrence Wright
I thought we squandered 9/11 terribly. And it's, it's the consequences of what we did to ourselves after 9/11 are greater than what was done to us.
— Lawrence Wright
But instead of getting bin Laden, bin Laden got him.
— Lawrence Wright
As an American, I can't tell you how disappointed I am in our intelligence agencies and the f- their failure to protect our country. That's their mission, but they got c- so caught up in their, their institutional and personal antagonisms that they allowed 9/11 to happen.
— Lawrence Wright
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