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234 ‒ Chris Hemsworth on Limitless, longevity, and happiness

This episode of The Drive features clips from the Limitless docuseries courtesy of Disney+ https://www.disneyplus.com/series/limitless-with-chris-hemsworth/2wow8Otyubmk Watch the full episode and view show notes here: http://bit.ly/3VYMNb4 Become a member to receive exclusive content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ Chris Hemsworth, best known for his role as Thor in the Marvel movies, joins Peter to discuss his recent work in the docuseries called Limitless. In the docuseries, Chris undertook extreme challenges to explore his physical and emotional limits and gain insights into longevity. In this episode, Chris discusses these many challenges—from fasting to arctic swims to 100-foot rope climbs—as well as the insights that he gained from each. Peter, who also played a role in the docuseries, guides Chris through the science of longevity, including what Chris’s APOE-ε4 genotype means for his risk of Alzheimer’s disease. Additionally, Chris describes how his outlook on health, happiness, work-life balance, and more have changed from his experience on Limitless. We discuss: 0:00:00 - Intro 0:00:08 - Limitless: how Chris got involved and his overall experience filming the docuseries 0:06:18 - “Fasting” ‒ ep. 3 of Limitless in which Chris attempts a 4-day fast 0:11:05 - “Shock” ‒ ep. 2 of Limitless in which Chris swims in the Arctic Ocean 0:19:08 - Cold exposure: the potential physical and mental benefits 0:21:08 - “Strength” ‒ ep. 4 of Limitless in which Chris explores how muscle can improve longevity 0:32:34 - The APOE-ε4 genotype and Alzheimer’s disease risk 0:41:53 - How Chris uses sauna 0:44:32 - “Acceptance” - ep. 6 of Limitless in which Chris explores the meaning of life by contemplating death 0:56:03 - Chris’s new perspective on work-life balance 0:59:01 - “Stress-Proof” - ep. 1 of Limitless in which Chris learns about the impact of stress and how to manage it 1:03:18 - Chris reflects on his intrinsic motivation driven by both fear and purpose 1:07:24 - Chris reflects on his career arc and how his presence as an actor has evolved 1:12:11 - How Chris’s outlook has changed since filming Limitless -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 45 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle Disclaimer: This podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional healthcare services, including the giving of medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is formed. The use of this information and the materials linked to this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content on this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they have, and they should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions. I take conflicts of interest very seriously. For all of my disclosures and the companies I invest in or advise, please visit my website where I keep an up-to-date and active list of such companies.

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Dec 12, 20221h 16mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Chris Hemsworth and Peter Attia on Limitless, APOE4, and Slowing Down

  1. Hemsworth explains that Limitless grew from a planned few-week shoot into a two-and-a-half-year project, which let each episode go deeper and let him trust the team enough to give more of himself.
  2. He describes the physical challenges, including a four-day fast, a 36°F Arctic Ocean swim, and a 100-foot rope climb, and says fear of failing the episode and the purpose behind each challenge both kept him going.
  3. Attia tells him he carries two copies of APOE4, which Attia says raises Alzheimer's risk roughly eight to ten times, and Hemsworth chose to go public to motivate others and says the brain-health work benefits the rest of his life.
  4. The death-acceptance episode, with an aged-up suit and conversations with BJ Miller and a young woman named Natalie, left Hemsworth feeling he wasn't ready to go and wanting to slow down and be more present with his kids.
  5. Hemsworth reflects on his career, saying the fight-or-flight drive that got him started still lingers, that he reframes nervousness as excitement, and that he now wants to choose projects and directors more carefully.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Trust and time deepened the series

Hemsworth says the longer timeline let episodes develop, and trusting the experts made him willing to take more risks and give more of himself than he first committed to.

Extreme lows can produce extreme highs

Attia suggests the joy Hemsworth felt after the Arctic swim came from going from feeling near death to elation within minutes, since people feel rates of change more than steady states.

Knowing your APOE genotype can be a lever

Attia argues that APOE4 raises risk but is not deterministic, that early knowledge gives leverage to reduce risk, and that withholding it is wrong; Hemsworth says the lifestyle changes help every part of his life.

Heat and cold are part of Hemsworth's daily recovery

He uses sauna and ice baths for mood, soreness, and stiffness, and Attia notes sauna data is observational but consistently positive and that it noticeably improves his own sleep.

Training became more targeted and smarter

Hemsworth says he moved from lifting heavy everywhere to targeted, explosive work with slow negatives, which gave him more gains, while Attia says he has a favorable fast-twitch muscle fiber gene.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I have been sprinting through life, and the moments and opportunities, and I'm grateful for them, but I've been very quickly going to the next one, to the next one, next one.

— Chris Hemsworth

The only difference was how they labeled that feeling.

— Chris Hemsworth

I wanna soak it in. I don't wanna be in a sprint anymore. I wanna be more present. I wanna be right here and appreciate everything that's in front of me.

— Chris Hemsworth

I'm glad I'm not sitting on my death bed going, "Ah, damn, I should have done this. I could have done this. Ah, if only I'd done that."

— Chris Hemsworth

I mean, you, you are rich, Chris. You are rich in, in people. Um, and I, I, I suspect that's actually probably your greatest asset.

— Peter Attia

Limitless production and COVID extensionFour-day fast and Arctic swimCold and sauna routinesStrength training and rope climbAPOE4 genotype and Alzheimer's riskAcceptance of death and work-life balanceFear versus purpose as motivation

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