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JB Pritzker Fires Back at Trump’s "Demented" Attacks on Chicago | Pivot

It’s the latest stop on the Pivot Tour — Chicago! Kara and Scott sit down with Illinois Governor JB Pritzker live at @ChicagoTheatreMSG. Pritzker talks about how Illinois has handled the immigration crackdown, and calls out Trump’s “demented” posts about Chicago. He also calls out the Democrats who backed the GOP funding bill. Plus, is he planning a presidential run anytime soon? Find out what he told Kara and Scott. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 4:03 Welcome 4:45 Epstein Emails 5:13 Trump’s Crackdown on Chicago 11:37 Why Come to Chicago? 14:43 “Demented” Trump 19:13 Redistricting War 20:28 Should Democrats Have Voted to End the Shutdown? 24:15 Chicago Quantum Computing 25:40 Will Pritzker Run for President? #pivot #podcast #chicago #illinois #jbpritzker #trump #immigratin #redistricting #democrats #quantumcomputing Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Video Editor: Manolo Moreno Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

Scott GallowayhostKara SwisherhostJB Pritzkerguest
Nov 14, 202531mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 4:00

    Live at the Chicago Theatre: Pivot hits the stage

    Scott and Kara open the live show with big hometown energy, positioning Chicago as an innovation hub and setting up a no-spin conversation. The crowd interaction establishes the tone: comedic, direct, and political.

    • Scott’s warm-up and celebration of Chicago as “greatest city in America”
    • Show premise: cutting through spin and calling people out
    • Kara riffs on audience volume and Trump-at-a-football-game joke
    • Transition into the live Pivot format with a special guest tease
  2. 4:00 – 4:58

    Sponsors and show kickoff with Governor J.B. Pritzker

    Kara formally starts Pivot live and thanks sponsors before introducing Governor J.B. Pritzker. They briefly flag other news (Epstein) but pivot quickly to Chicago and federal action in the city.

    • Official Pivot introduction and host roll call
    • Sponsor thanks (Odoo, Upwork) and guest introduction
    • Quick mention of Epstein news as a later topic
    • Immediate shift toward Chicago-focused political issues
  3. 4:58 – 6:06

    Federal immigration operations in Chicago: ‘Operation Midway Blitz’

    Kara frames the controversy around federal immigration enforcement actions and asks how the state navigates the ‘push and pull’ with the Trump administration. The tone is adversarial toward the operation and its branding, with the audience reacting strongly.

    • Kara describes reports of federal agents scaling down then potentially returning in larger numbers
    • Audience hostility toward federal enforcement references
    • Question posed: how Illinois navigates federal immigration enforcement dynamics
    • Set-up for Pritzker’s on-the-ground and legal response
  4. 6:06 – 10:03

    Pritzker’s response: community protection, documentation, and lawsuits

    Pritzker credits Chicagoans and Illinois residents for peaceful resistance—warning neighbors, recording encounters, and asserting rights. He describes a lack of federal-state coordination and argues video evidence has helped win federal cases.

    • Community tactics: whistles, warnings, peaceful protest, rights education
    • Claim: DHS messaging is unreliable; state learns details via media
    • Encouragement to record interactions to build legal accountability
    • Story from Staunton, IL: small-town protest after an undocumented resident is detained
  5. 10:03 – 11:36

    Limits of state power vs. federal authority: Supremacy Clause realities

    Asked about a possible spring surge in enforcement, Pritzker explains why states have limited leverage against federal agents. He emphasizes rights education and criticizes alleged racial profiling and the ‘worst of the worst’ narrative.

    • Supremacy Clause and practical difficulty of blocking federal operations
    • Allegation that agents aren’t following federal law but face little accountability
    • Focus on long-settled undocumented residents as targets vs. serious criminals
    • Critique of demanding ‘citizenship papers’ and normalization of document checks
  6. 11:36 – 14:33

    Why choose Chicago/Illinois: jobs, culture, and ‘decency’ as a civic asset

    Scott asks Pritzker to “sell the product” of Illinois for young grads and immigrants. Pritzker argues Chicago is a top destination for Midwest talent, cites tech job growth (including Google’s interest), and highlights livability and community character.

    • Scott’s ‘state as product’ framing: taxes vs. services/opportunity tradeoff
    • Chicago as a magnet for Midwest university graduates
    • Google anecdote: Chicago as most requested U.S. transfer city; downtown expansion
    • Pitch pillars: jobs (tech and beyond), sports/culture, family life, and civic decency
  7. 14:33 – 19:07

    Trump attacks Chicago’s crime and retail vacancies; Pritzker calls him ‘demented’

    Kara reads Trump’s claim about the ‘Miracle Mile’ and calls out factual errors, then presses Pritzker on the ‘call in the troops’ rhetoric. Pritzker argues Trump misunderstands and maligns Chicago, while citing crime declines and rejecting Trump’s self-crediting.

    • Correction: Magnificent Mile vs. Trump’s ‘Miracle Mile shopping center’ framing
    • Pritzker’s ‘demented’ remark and criticism of Trump’s Chicago narrative
    • Discussion of troop-calling rhetoric and federal intervention implications
    • Claim: Chicago homicide rate cut in half; Trump takes credit despite limited involvement
  8. 19:07 – 20:26

    Redistricting escalation: state-by-state retaliation and Illinois’s posture

    Kara shifts to the national redistricting ‘war’ and asks what Illinois might do in response to GOP efforts. Pritzker describes a tit-for-tat dynamic among states and suggests Illinois could be pushed into action depending on neighbors like Indiana.

    • National context: narrow margins and high stakes for congressional control
    • Trump pressuring GOP governors/legislatures to redraw maps
    • Paired retaliation logic (e.g., Missouri/Maryland; Texas/California)
    • Illinois calculus: already 14 of 17 seats Democratic; Indiana’s move could trigger Illinois action
  9. 20:26 – 21:50

    Shutdown politics: Pritzker blasts Senate Democrats who voted to end it

    A question from the audience prompts Pritzker to call the vote to end the shutdown a major Democratic mistake. He argues Democrats had momentum from recent elections and surrendered leverage to Republicans who control government.

    • Clarification: eight Democratic senators voted to end the shutdown
    • Pritzker: ‘biggest mistake’ of his political career observation
    • Disappointment in Illinois’s senior senator; praise for Tammy Duckworth’s opposition
    • Argument that Republicans/Trump created the crisis and should bear responsibility
  10. 21:50 – 24:11

    Why they folded: holiday pressure, blame fears, and Trump’s leverage strategy

    Kara presses for a theory of why Democrats voted as they did; Pritzker points to fears of public backlash, travel disruptions, and ‘responsibility’ narratives. He reframes the standoff as a fight over basic needs—food and healthcare—where Democrats should have held firm.

    • Possible motivation: Thanksgiving timing and fear of shared blame
    • Pritzker’s view: Trump wanted the shutdown and refused negotiation
    • Policy framing: Democrats sought healthcare restoration; Trump used hardship as leverage
    • Critique of Democrats ‘doing the responsible thing’ enabling GOP dysfunction
  11. 24:11 – 25:52

    Illinois as a quantum hub: institutions, investment, and Chicago Quantum Exchange

    Kara asks about Illinois’s strategy to compete in advanced tech, particularly quantum computing. Pritzker lists regional research strengths and recounts state investment and coalition-building that he says has put Illinois in the national lead.

    • Anchor institutions: Argonne, Fermilab, UChicago, UIUC, Northwestern and regional partners
    • Origin story: UChicago proposal in 2019 for Chicago Quantum Exchange
    • State investment via major infrastructure bill; insistence on UIUC partnership
    • Claim of national race among Colorado, Maryland, Illinois—with Illinois ‘in the lead’
  12. 25:52 – 29:23

    Presidential-candidate lightning round: service, healthcare, wages, Ukraine, Section 230

    A moderator runs rapid-fire policy prompts framed around a hypothetical presidential run. Pritzker signals support for national service (broadly defined), universal healthcare and childcare, a higher minimum wage, robust Ukraine support without U.S. troops, and tighter social media accountability.

    • National service linked to training and infrastructure, not only military
    • Endorsement of universal healthcare; support for universal childcare
    • Push to raise federal minimum wage (at least to $15) and anti-poverty rationale
    • Ukraine: aid/support yes, boots on the ground no; critique of Trump’s stance
    • Section 230 carve-out idea; concern about harms to youth; support for banning phones in classrooms
  13. 29:23 – 31:18

    Will Pritzker run for president? The evasive close and send-off

    Kara asks for a timeline on a presidential run; Pritzker deflects, emphasizing his job as governor and plans to run for reelection. Kara needles him about 2028 ambitions, then the segment ends with applause and outro music.

    • Direct question: ‘how close’ in months to a presidential run
    • Pritzker: says he loves being governor; confirms reelection intent
    • Deflection to Democrats’ ‘great bench’ for 2028
    • Wrap-up thanks, applause, and show transition to outro/sponsor close

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