JB Pritzker Fires Back at Trump’s "Demented" Attacks on Chicago | Pivot

1. 0:00 – 4:03

   Intro

   1. SGScott Galloway0:00

      Good evening, Chicago.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      (cheering)

   3. SGScott Galloway0:05

      Greatest city in America. Well, welcome to the podca- ... Welcome to the podcast that cuts through all the spin. We're talking about Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway.

   4. NANarrator0:21

      (cheering)

   5. SGScott Galloway0:24

      Now these two break down the biggest stories and aren't afraid to call anyone out. Pivot is honest, informative, never boring. And that's why it's so smart that Kara and Scott have come to Chicago, 'cause this is a city that's always been about innovation, hard work, and telling it like it is.

   6. NANarrator0:46

      (cheering)

   7. KSKara Swisher0:50

      Go, Scott!

   8. SGScott Galloway0:51

      So no better place to be in the country than here in Chicago tonight. So please join me in welcoming Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway.

   9. NANarrator1:02

      (cheering)

   10. KSKara Swisher1:14

       I'm excited! Ugh. I, I, you know, Washington was a little louder, so let's try that again.

   11. NANarrator1:28

       Boo!

   12. KSKara Swisher1:28

       No. Oh, boo Washington. Oh, what do you think, I'm trump at a football game? Cut it out.

   13. NANarrator1:44

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   15. KSKara Swisher4:00

       Hi, everyone. Live from the Chicago Theatre,

2. 4:03 – 4:45

   Welcome

   1. KSKara Swisher4:03

      this is Pivot from New York Magazine-

   2. NANarrator4:05

      (cheering)

   3. KSKara Swisher4:05

      ... and the Vox Media Podcast Network. (clapping) I'm Kara Swisher.

   4. SGScott Galloway4:16

      And I'm Scott Galloway.

   5. KSKara Swisher4:18

      And before we start I want to send, as he said, a big thank you to our sponsors, Odoo and Upwork. And please give a huge round of applause to tonight's special guest, Governor J.B. Pritzker.

   6. NANarrator4:29

      (cheering)

   7. KSKara Swisher4:37

      I think, I think you're popular. I'm not hearing booing. Um, uh, so we're gonna talk about a couple of things. Um,

3. 4:45 – 5:13

   Epstein Emails

   1. KSKara Swisher4:45

      I'll ask you at the end about Epstein. Apparently there was some news today.

   2. NANarrator4:49

      (laughing)

   3. KSKara Swisher4:49

      Any quick thoughts actually?

   4. NANarrator4:52

      (laughing)

   5. SGScott Galloway4:53

      There's nothing quick about it except Trump, Epstein, I think we know what happened there.

   6. NANarrator4:58

      Boo!

   7. KSKara Swisher4:58

      Okay. Um, it's really interesting, uh, just as they got back, and they did seat the representative, which pushed it over the edge, and actually others did join in. Um, we'll talk about it more, but, um, I wanna actually talk about Chicago and about the controversial immigration operations

4. 5:13 – 11:37

   Trump’s Crackdown on Chicago

   1. KSKara Swisher5:13

      that have taken place in the city. After nearly 60 days-

   2. NANarrator5:17

      Boo!

   3. KSKara Swisher5:17

      Agreed. Uh, Border Patrol official Gregory Bovino who's trying ... I guess he's trying to-

   4. NANarrator5:24

      Boo!

   5. KSKara Swisher5:24

      (laughs) He's trying to get cast as the guy, uh, that got his face melted in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

   6. NANarrator5:31

      (laughing)

   7. KSKara Swisher5:31

      Um-

   8. SGScott Galloway5:31

      He's too short for that.

   9. NANarrator5:36

      (laughing)

   10. KSKara Swisher5:36

       Any, many of his agents are reportedly planning to leave as early as this week with the Trump administration's downshift-

   11. NANarrator5:43

       (cheering)

   12. KSKara Swisher5:44

       ... of Operation Midway Blitz. I don't know where they come up with these names. The summer cords indic- reports indicate that federal agents could return fourfold in the spring. I guess they want ... They can't take the weather, 'cause they're wimps, like you guys can. Um-

   13. SGScott Galloway5:56

       'Cause they're snowflakes.

   14. KSKara Swisher5:57

       Exactly.

   15. NANarrator5:58

       (laughing)

   16. KSKara Swisher5:59

       So how do you continue to navigate the push and pull on this strange federal immigration enforcement?

   17. JPJB Pritzker6:06

       Well, let me start by saying, uh, and I really, uh, not pandering to this audience. It's the people of Chicago that have truly reacted to them-

   18. NANarrator6:16

       (cheering)

   19. JPJB Pritzker6:17

       ... and protected our neighbors and our friends. People have come out. The number of whistles that have been purchased all acro-

   20. NANarrator6:23

       (applause)

   21. JPJB Pritzker6:23

       ... and that people are using when they see unmarked vehicles and guys wearing masks. Uh, people are coming out of their homes. People who've never protested before, people who've never been engaged before, they're outraged and they're coming out to warn their neighbors and their friends, you know, "ICE is here. Be careful. Protect yourself. Know what your rights are." And the people of Chicago have just done a terrific job. For two months now they've been under siege by Customs and Border Patrol, by ICE, by Gregory Bavino, and, uh, and this city really stepped up, activated, peacefully protested, and has pushed back. I'm really proud of everyone.

   22. NANarrator7:00

       (applause)

   23. KSKara Swisher7:00

       So wh- how do you, how do you deal with this, working presumably with the mayor? But how do you... How, th- they don't call you, right? You don't know a lot.

   24. JPJB Pritzker7:08

       They don't communicate at all. It's the first time that, uh, I think in my lifetime, uh, that the federal government isn't talking to the state government about s- operations that it wants to do in our state. And, uh, it's very frustrating. So we read things in the news that come from, you know, they've got this, uh, this, uh, lying spokesperson at the Department of Homeland Security, Tricia McLaughlin, who literally, I mean, e- everything that comes out of her mouth is false. Uh, and that's how the news gets the information, and then we've gotta figure out what's true, not true in reality, and then tell the news, and of course react to it. So it's, it's very challenging. But I will say that, um, we've seen, uh, a lot of really terrible things on the ground. I think everybody here probably has witnessed something. Um, we've asked people, and they've reacted to it, to pull out their phones, their iPhones, their Android phones, and video everything you see. And you know what that's led to? Federal cases that we have won.

   25. NANarrator8:13

       (cheering)

   26. JPJB Pritzker8:13

       Thank you.

   27. KSKara Swisher8:14

       So, so presumably you're not in touch with Kristi Noem, correct?

   28. JPJB Pritzker8:19

       Yeah, Kristi doesn't call me. I don't know why.

   29. KSKara Swisher8:21

       No- now h- how does it usually work? I mean, some governor... Some people are asking, some of those sort of pandering, uh, officials want them to come in. Why, w- why do you think they targeted you? You're running, wh- because you might be running for president? What do you think is the...

   30. JPJB Pritzker8:37

       I don't think they targeted me. I mean, Donald Trump has had a problem with Chicago for as long as anyone's heard anything out of his mouth, really. Um, he attacked Chicago. He did back in 2016. Uh, he does all the time. He has this idea in his head that everything's on fire here. He said the same about Portland, I might add. I'm not sure why, but... And guess what? Those are the first two cities, um-
5. 11:37 – 14:43

   Why Come to Chicago?

   1. SGScott Galloway11:37

      um, voiced this to the governor when he was on the podcast. Every year I do a bucket list with my sons. I say, "It's our weekend. We can do whatever we want." My eldest wanted to go to a PSG game in Paris, and my youngest, we live in London, said, "I really wanna go to Chicago." (laughs)

   2. NANarrator11:52

      (cheering)

   3. SGScott Galloway11:53

      So we came here, steak house, batting cage, went to the tallest building in Chicago, which every kid has to do, uh, had a f- by the way, just had a fantastic weekend. If you think of cities and states as a product, right? You're a relatively high tax state, not the highest.Uh, you offer s- uh, services, economic opportunity, but pitch the product that is Illinois and Chicago. Like, why... As- as... Imagine you're a recent college grad with just a ton of options-

   4. JPJB Pritzker12:27

      Yeah.

   5. SGScott Galloway12:27

      ... or an immigrant that has incredible human capital and could go anywhere, um, what's the pitch? Sell me on Illinois as a place to choose to spend my formative or young adult years.

   6. JPJB Pritzker12:42

      I, I might add that I- I'll make the pitch, but I will tell you that this is the destination for most kids at universities in the Midwest. We have an enormous influx of people here from Michigan, from Indiana, from, uh, Missouri, and so on. P- People want to come to the City of Chicago, the young people-

   7. SGScott Galloway13:02

      Yeah.

   8. JPJB Pritzker13:03

      ... uh, coming here. I mean, it's an exciting, vibrant city. Uh, I would say there are several things. I mean, first, if you're a young person, uh, we've got, you know, great jobs at tech companies. We are growing. Interesting, uh, fact I heard from Google, which is... Within Google... Maybe somebody here is from Google, um, but- Whoo! There you go. I heard that within Google, if you want to transfer around to one of the other offices, either 'cause your spouse is moving or whatever-

   9. SGScott Galloway13:30

      Right.

   10. JPJB Pritzker13:30

       ... uh, the, the most requested place to move to in the United States is Chicago. (applauding) Whoo! And, and, and they just are... I don't know if any of you have seen, but they just, Google are moving to the center of the City of Chicago. They actually bought the building from us, from the State of Illinois, and they're redoing it, and it's gonna be absolutely gorgeous. So, um, it's a great, vibrant city where there are a lot of really good jobs, whether it's the tech businesses or, um, I'll just add, it's a great sports town. (applauding) Whoo!

   11. KSKara Swisher14:03

       Right.

   12. JPJB Pritzker14:05

       And, uh, importantly, great place to raise your family, and I, I... Last thing is, I lived... You know, I, I've lived in, in lots of different places when I was younger. I lived in... Uh, went to school in North Carolina, you know, uh, lived in California, lived in Washington, DC, uh, lived in- just outside of Boston. So, a lot of different places, and I can say this, no more decent people in a big city than in the City of Chicago.

   13. KSKara Swisher14:33

       Right. Um, I think, I think Scott was looking for what's your favorite bar tip, but that's okay. Um, uh, one issue about the tr-

6. 14:43 – 19:13

   “Demented” Trump

   1. KSKara Swisher14:43

      just this week, uh, President Trump said, "The Miracle Mile shopping center," which, in Chicago (laughing) -

   2. JPJB Pritzker14:49

      (laughing)

   3. KSKara Swisher14:49

      ... I covered retail here, by the way, once covered our nation's- once considered our nation's best. It's now more than 28% vacancy factor and is ready to call it quits unless something is done about murder and crime, which is prevalent throughout the city. "CALL IN THE TROOPS FA-" This is in all caps. "CALL IN THE TROOPS FAST BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE." So, first of all, it's The Magnificent Mile. It's n- it's n-

   4. JPJB Pritzker15:10

      Thank you.

   5. KSKara Swisher15:10

      It's not a shopping center. Um, and you said in response, and this was interesting, "The man is demented. He really has no idea what he's doing." Um-

   6. JPJB Pritzker15:23

      (applauding) Whoo! Whoo!

   7. KSKara Swisher15:25

      That's an interesting choice of words, uh, but, but I would assume the city's capable of handling real estate vacancies without federal intervention.

   8. JPJB Pritzker15:34

      Yeah, he... Look, he... Like I said, he loves to dump on the City of Chicago. Uh, the reality is that, that, uh, honestly, this state is on the rise. This city is on the ri-... We've got... We have a lot of really great things going for us, and it doesn't help when you have the President of the United States with some crazy notion of what the city is. He doesn't come here. Uh, I think if you a-... Y- you know, he's got such a bad rep with everybody in Chicago that if you ask most people, they'd like to tear the, the name Trump off that building of his. (applauding) Whoo! Uh-

   9. KSKara Swisher16:12

      You know what's wrong with it? The font is wrong. It's badly sized font. It really is. It's offensive.

   10. JPJB Pritzker16:17

       It re- really-

   11. KSKara Swisher16:18

       Sorry.

   12. JPJB Pritzker16:19

       Ye- yeah. Yeah. I, I... Yeah, there's-

   13. SGScott Galloway16:21

       (laughing)

   14. JPJB Pritzker16:21

       ... other things that are wrong with Trump, but, uh, uh, but I, I, I will say this, that he's... You know, um, he likes to dump on us, but he, he just... He doesn't read. Apparently, he doesn't spend any time, yeah, trying to understand anything at all, and if he did... 'Cause he, he also put a tweet out or whatever his, I don't know-

   15. KSKara Swisher16:41

       Truth.

   16. JPJB Pritzker16:42

       ... False, whatever it is, tru- social, um, uh, but he, he put something out, you know, where he was... He claimed credit for the last four years of crime coming down precipitously in the City of Chicago, and I mean, our, our, our homicide rate has been cut in half. And they've been here for two months, you know, not getting the worst of the worst off the streets, and he put out something today or yesterday claiming that any success we've had has been because of him. And a- again, uh, all I can say is, he doe-... He should... You know, I wish he... Well, I don't really wish he would spend more time here. (laughing) Uh, but, but I mean, if he understood this city, uh, you know, like most people who come here and spend any time here, it's a great city, and, and he should know it. But, um, I- I, uh... Anyway, I'm, I'm, I'm frustrated by everything-

   17. KSKara Swisher17:33

       You stick with demented. You stick with demented.

   18. JPJB Pritzker17:35

       I gotta stick with demented. I, uh... I mean, otherwise... Like, l- almost everything that comes out of his mouth is false. So, uh, I'm frustrated because he's got the biggest bully pulpit in the world, and he's, you know, talking crap about the City of Chicago, and a- all I can say is, I mean, the... All the people... I bet a lot of people that are in the audience here moved to the City of Chicago and will vouch for the city with everyone you know.

   19. NANarrator18:04

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   20. KSKara Swisher19:07

       This country's in the middle of a massive redistricting war. The term, "control of Congress." Apparently, the Republicans might actually

7. 19:13 – 20:28

   Redistricting War

   1. KSKara Swisher19:13

      lose seats now, uh, through their redistricting because they're turning pink or purple, e- especially in Texas. But they're only up a half a seat right now, and possibly down four through their efforts. But Illinois, what, what, what is going to happen here?

   2. JPJB Pritzker19:28

      Well, I've been... (laughs)

   3. NANarrator19:30

      Yeah!

   4. JPJB Pritzker19:30

      Say, we're going to take a poll tonight. Um, I...

   5. KSKara Swisher19:34

      (laughs)

   6. JPJB Pritzker19:34

      You know, they, they're going state by state, right, uh, Republicans are, and trying to get... Well, Donald Trump is trying to get the governors and the Republican legislatures to redistrict. And Indiana, right next door to us, has been on again, off again, on again. They're, they're trying to do it. Uh, and what I've said is that... And there's been a pairing of states, by the way. Missouri is trying to do it, and therefore Maryland might do it in order to cancel out Missouri. California did it to cancel out Texas. Uh, you know, if Indiana does it, and they're going to meet in December to decide, I, I think that would push Illinois toward redistricting.

   7. NANarrator20:14

      (applause) Yeah!

   8. JPJB Pritzker20:16

      So, uh-

   9. KSKara Swisher20:17

      Um-

   10. JPJB Pritzker20:17

       But I will, I will add we have 14 Democrats out of 17 seats, so, um-

   11. NANarrator20:22

       Oh, my God.

   12. JPJB Pritzker20:22

       ... we're doing okay. Democrats are doing okay in this state.

   13. NANarrator20:26

       So, uh, two questions. First

8. 20:28 – 24:15

   Should Democrats Have Voted to End the Shutdown?

   1. NANarrator20:28

      is, do you think the seven Democratic senators should have voted to end the shutdown?

   2. SGScott Galloway20:32

      No! Go! Damn it.

   3. JPJB Pritzker20:38

      There were eight, by the way. Eight.

   4. NANarrator20:39

      Excuse me.

   5. JPJB Pritzker20:40

      Um, and, uh, and I know every single one of those people. Uh, and I can tell you that... I mean, that, that's probably the biggest mistake I've seen maybe in my political career.

   6. NANarrator20:52

      (applause) Whoo!

   7. JPJB Pritzker20:53

      Um, it was the wrong thing to do. Uh, Democrats won eight days ago everywhere in the country that there was a, an election.

   8. NANarrator21:01

      Yeah.

   9. JPJB Pritzker21:01

      And I, I would have thought that would stiffen their spines in the United States Senate, not loosen them. And unfortunately, we saw people who are retiring... It makes no sense to me. People that are retiring, who have really nothing politically to lose, uh, and should have-

   10. KSKara Swisher21:19

       Oh, it's part of a scheme presumably, right?

   11. JPJB Pritzker21:21

       It's, it's a scheme. Exactly. Right.

   12. KSKara Swisher21:22

       Yeah.

   13. JPJB Pritzker21:23

       Uh, but I, I'm frustrated. And, and, uh, you know, I, I... You know, one of them was our senior senator here. I was, I was disa-

   14. SGScott Galloway21:33

       Boo!

   15. JPJB Pritzker21:33

       I was very disappointed. He, he's had a... He's really done a lot of good things for this state-

   16. NANarrator21:37

       Yeah, good man.

   17. JPJB Pritzker21:38

       ... and a lot of good things for the country. I was disappointed in his decision to do that. Our other senator, who I think extraordinarily highly of, also criticized the senior senator. Her name is Tammy Duckworth. She did a great job and voted against it.

   18. SGScott Galloway21:50

       (applause) Yeah! Yeah!

   19. KSKara Swisher21:50

       So, why do you think... Why do, why do you think they did it? What was your theory? I mean, there was all these theories of game the-

   20. SGScott Galloway21:57

       That's right!

   21. KSKara Swisher21:57

       Uh, I understand, but there's also these game theory things that's out there they're trying to push.

   22. JPJB Pritzker22:00

       I think many of them had co- And you s- heard them, some of them, at press conferences yesterday. Um, I think they came to the conclusion that s- that, you know, this has gone on for so long that it's hurting people, and that they could rescue the country from this situation. But the reality is, the guy who created this problem is Donald Trump. And he's the guy who refused to sit down with Democrats... By the way, what was he doing? Why did he hold out and not sit down with Democrats and go along with... He wanted to shut the government down. Why? And the reason... I mean, this is the crazy thing. He wants to deny people food in order to force the country to accept less healthcare. I mean, what is the li-... Y- your job as President of the United States is to make people's lives better. Democrats just wanted healthcare, r- a res- restoration of affordable healthcare. That's all Democrats wanted. And Donald Trump was willing to starve people in order to hold to his position. You know, it's, it's, it's arguably one of the best, uh, campaign slogans of the 21st century, is that we would... You know, that Democrats are the ones who are fighting for people to get fed and get healthcare, and that it's the Republicans and Donald Trump who are willing to stand against it. And so, I don't get it.

   23. KSKara Swisher23:20

       Why did the senators do it-

   24. JPJB Pritzker23:20

       I really don't get it.

   25. KSKara Swisher23:21

       ... though? Why did the Democ-

   26. JPJB Pritzker23:22

       I, I... Again, I thought... I think that they felt like were running up against Thanksgiving-

   27. KSKara Swisher23:27

       Right. Okay.

   28. JPJB Pritzker23:27

       ... that people aren't going to be able to get their flights to wherever it is that they want to go, that, that the public will hold both parties, and maybe Democrats more so for some reason, uh, responsible. But the reality is that that's not what was happening, right? I mean, Republicans, rightly so, they're in control. They've literally got every branch of government in their hands, and they are the ones responsible for this. And yet, these eight decided to give in. I... It is too bad. You know, the Democrats... People rely upon Democrats to do the responsible thing all the time. Guess what? Who, who's doing that? The Republicans in Congress and Donald Trump are the ones who are, w- y- you know, "We've got to go do the right thing so that they can get away with murder."

   29. KSKara Swisher24:11

       So, um, two more quick questions. One, we talked to Governor Healey

9. 24:15 – 25:40

   Chicago Quantum Computing

   1. KSKara Swisher24:15

      in Boston about their efforts to make Massachusetts an AI hub. You're leaning into quantum computing. Talk really briefly about the strategy here.

   2. JPJB Pritzker24:23

      So yeah. We've got, we've got... First of all, we've got some of the best institutions in the entire country, uh, for building quantum and AI. We've got Argonne National Laboratory, Fermilab, University of Chicago, University of Illinois Northwestern. Uh, not to mention, as I, I mentioned those mid- those Midwest institutions, Purdue, University of Wisconsin-Madison, et cetera. All great places, right? Yeah. And people come here to Chicago. They want- Yeah. ... to come here. So we have all the makings of it to begin with. Second, University of Chicago came to me in 2019, uh, wanting to build out what's called the Chicago Quantum Xchange. And I had just passed or was about to pass a, a major infrastructure bill for the state, one that hadn't been passed... I mean, we hadn't had anything like that really ever in our history. Uh, and asked if we would invest in making Illinois and the Chicago Quantum Xchange, uh, the, the, the hub of quantum for the country. And I insisted that the University of Illinois be the partner in that endeavor. And putting that together and then we, we're now building a quantum campus. That has made... That has really put us on the map. That there, there are three states that are going after being the quantum hub of the country, Colorado, Maryland and Illinois, and we are in the lead.

   3. KSKara Swisher25:38

      Okay.

   4. NANarrator25:38

      (applause)

   5. NANarrator25:39

      Hey, Kara?

10. 25:40 – 31:18

    Will Pritzker Run for President?

    1. NANarrator25:40

       Can I do a quick-

    2. KSKara Swisher25:41

       Sure.

    3. NANarrator25:41

       ... thing? So, I want you to imagine that you're a popular governor and you decide to run for president.

    4. KSKara Swisher25:47

       Yeah, that's the question I was gonna ask. Go for it.

    5. JPJB Pritzker25:49

       Uh, what am I imagining? What, what was that?

    6. KSKara Swisher25:51

       Running for president.

    7. JPJB Pritzker25:52

       Oh.

    8. NANarrator25:52

       I just wanna do a lightning round, quick responses, gut response on some policy ideas. Uh, mandatory national service.

    9. JPJB Pritzker26:02

       We've got to train people for the jobs of the future. I believe that doing some kind of service, uh, allowing people to go to trade school potentially in that service, right, whether it's... So we're not talking necessarily about military service-

    10. NANarrator26:16

        Okay.

    11. JPJB Pritzker26:16

        ... but just serving the country. We've got a whole lot of infrastructure that get, needs to get built. I think that would be a great way for-

    12. NANarrator26:22

        Okay.

    13. JPJB Pritzker26:22

        ... people to operate.

    14. NANarrator26:23

        Uh, lower eligibility for Medicare by three years every year in office such that it's 41 by the time you leave. Basically, a move towards nationalized or socialized medicine.

    15. JPJB Pritzker26:34

        (applause)

    16. NANarrator26:35

        Whoo.

    17. KSKara Swisher26:35

        Lowering it every couple of years.

    18. NANarrator26:36

        Socialized medicine.

    19. KSKara Swisher26:37

        Socialized medicine. Lowering Medicare.

    20. JPJB Pritzker26:40

        Oh, I'm for universal healthcare. I've been... I'm, I'm... I believe everybody deserves to have a doctor and have a-

    21. NANarrator26:45

        Fair enough. Universal, universal childcare.

    22. JPJB Pritzker26:48

        You're... Are you kidding me? I, I came-

    23. NANarrator26:49

        Okay.

    24. JPJB Pritzker26:49

        ... into office with 25-

    25. NANarrator26:51

        Raise federal-

    26. JPJB Pritzker26:51

        ... years of childcare and, uh, and, uh, early-

    27. NANarrator26:52

        Raise federal minimum wage-

    28. KSKara Swisher26:53

        (applause)

    29. NANarrator26:54

        ... from $7.25 to, say, $20 or $25 an hour. What was the question?

    30. KSKara Swisher26:57

        Raise the minimum wage.

Episode duration: 31:18