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Justin Theroux on AI, Scriptwriting, and the Hollywood State of Play | Pivot

"Beetlejuice Beetlejuice" star Justin Theroux joins Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway to discuss his recent projects in the Hollywood, the current state of the film industry, and finding the right platform for content. He also shares how he's experimented with AI when it comes to scriptwriting. Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot #pivot #podcast #justintheroux #beetlejuicebeetlejuice #hollywood #ai #scriptwriting

Kara SwisherhostJustin TherouxguestScott Gallowayhost
Sep 20, 20248mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:21

    Justin Theroux joins Pivot and sets the context (Beetlejuice Beetlejuice)

    Kara introduces Justin Theroux as an actor-writer and notes his new film role in Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Justin shares he’s a longtime fan of the show, setting a friendly tone for an industry-focused conversation.

  2. 0:21 – 1:24

    Hollywood’s risk aversion: fewer ‘easy buys’ for original scripts

    Scott asks for the ‘state of play’ in Hollywood, and Justin describes pitching projects that would have sold easily a decade ago but now struggle to get traction. He interprets this as a reduced appetite for distinctive scripted work rather than a simple quality issue.

  3. 1:24 – 2:31

    Fear-driven ‘safe bets’: returning to familiar procedural formulas

    Kara and Justin connect the current buying slowdown to uncertainty about what comes next for the industry. Justin compares it to investors parking money in blue-chip stocks, while buyers ask for familiar, proven formats akin to classic medical/police procedurals.

  4. 2:31 – 2:56

    Why Justin remains optimistic: more outlets, new opportunities (YouTube/TikTok)

    Despite the cautious climate, Justin argues the ecosystem still has many distribution channels and potential buyers. He suggests platforms like YouTube could step into a larger role and notes TikTok’s position even if its monetization path is unclear.

  5. 2:56 – 3:07

    Choosing projects amid theatrical vs. streaming uncertainty

    Kara asks how Justin evaluates where to take projects in a shifting landscape. Justin candidly admits there’s no simple formula right now, reflecting how even experienced creators are navigating mixed signals about distribution and buyers.

  6. 3:07 – 3:43

    Comic detour: Scott as ‘Hollywood mogul’ and the realities of pitching

    Justin and Scott exchange jokes about who’s thriving in Hollywood, using humor to underline the difficulty of getting projects made. The banter highlights the tension between perception (big deals) and reality (many creators struggling to sell).

  7. 3:43 – 4:16

    Platform fit: matching tone and brand to the right buyer

    Justin explains that each studio/platform has a distinct identity and risk tolerance, so creators mentally map a project to its best home. The process becomes narrowing to a few likely buyers based on genre, edge, and brand compatibility.

  8. 4:16 – 5:16

    Examples: why edgy comedy may suit Netflix and prestige drama may suit FX

    Justin gives concrete examples of how content traits influence targeting. He suggests Apple may avoid projects that could conflict with its consumer-brand posture, while Netflix has shown willingness to back edgier comedy, and FX can be a strong home for selective prestige dramas.

  9. 5:16 – 5:42

    The ‘dating’ analogy: why partnership alignment determines success

    Justin likens platform relationships to dating and marriage: misalignment between creator and buyer can doom a project. He also pushes back on the term ‘content,’ emphasizing the importance of shared creative vision from development through release.

  10. 5:42 – 6:15

    AI in Hollywood: new laws, studio adoption, and strike-era anxieties

    Kara pivots to AI, citing new California protections for actors’ digital likenesses and Lionsgate’s stated plans to use generative AI. She asks Justin to respond as both a writer and actor—how he views AI, whether he uses it, and what concerns or benefits he sees.

  11. 6:15 – 7:38

    Justin’s firsthand AI writing test: ‘anodyne’ outputs with occasional sparks

    Justin describes asking Scott how to get started with AI tools and his concerns about privacy and data use. After experimenting, he found the results mostly generic, but occasionally helpful—offering unexpected footholds that can break writer’s block.

  12. 7:38 – 8:12

    AI as faster-than-Google research: period accuracy and language origins

    Justin notes AI can answer targeted research questions more directly than traditional search. He gives an example of checking historical usage of a profane word for a period script and valuing citations and speed to reach usable answers.

  13. 8:12 – 8:37

    Wrap-up and plug: Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, plus a promise to return

    Kara and Scott thank Justin and praise his performance while pointing viewers to Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Justin closes by joking he’ll return to talk more—keeping the tone light while ending on continued collaboration.

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