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Kara and Scott discuss Trump's tariffs getting blocked, and why everyone is talking about TACO trade. Then, Elon bids farewell to DOGE, and Trump feuds with Harvard, Putin, and Tim Cook. Plus, Kara and Scott's experiment with Veo 3, Google's video generator, leads to hilarious and horrifying results. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 3:28 Trump Tariffs and TACO Trade 17:24 Elon’s DOGE Farewell 29:55 Trump vs. Harvard 35:12 Trump vs. Putin 37:06 Trump vs. Tim Cook 44:41 Trump’s Crypto Romance 51:20 Google’s AI Video Generator 1:01:40 Scott’s Fail #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #trump #donaldtrump #tariffs #taco #tacotrade #elonmusk #doge #harvard #putin #russia #timcook #crypto #google #veo3 #ai #aivideo #artificialintelligence Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Corinne Ruff Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

Kara SwisherhostScott Gallowayhost
May 30, 20251h 5mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Trump’s Tariffs, Crypto Grift, Harvard War, And AI Deepfake Futures

  1. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway dissect Trump’s tariff tactics, the “taco trade” pattern of threats and retreats, and how this volatility fuels insider trading and erodes trust in U.S. markets.
  2. They explore Trump’s growing embrace of crypto as both political messaging and grift, his escalating feuds with Harvard, Putin, and Tim Cook, and the broader economic implications of gutting international students and Pell Grants.
  3. Elon Musk’s Doge-era entanglement with Trump, plus his struggles and advantages in AI, autonomy, and space, serve as a case study in how politics can damage a tech brand while still enriching incumbents.
  4. Finally, they test Google’s new AI video tool Veo, using disturbing Kara-and-Scott deepfakes to illustrate how AI will first disrupt low-level production work, further empower incumbents with strong IP, and complicate the future of creative industries.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Tariff theatrics enable predictable volatility and potential insider trading.

Trump’s pattern of extreme tariff threats followed by walk-backs (“taco trade”) reliably whipsaws markets, creating opportunities for well-positioned insiders and allies to profit at the expense of uninformed investors.

Eroding trust in market fairness threatens America’s core economic advantage.

Galloway argues that widespread insider trading around tariffs and policy announcements undermines faith in fair play—the “jet fuel” behind the U.S.’s deep capital markets—and risks pushing investors away much like Russia’s kleptocratic markets.

Cutting international students is economic self‑harm for the U.S.

Foreign students are both ‘cash cows’ (full-tuition revenue) and critical talent, especially in AI and startups; constraining them for political theater damages a major export sector and America’s long‑term innovation pipeline.

Trump’s crypto pivot is politically savvy but structurally risky.

Positioning himself as crypto’s champion helps Trump court disaffected young men and the crypto community, yet his massive personal exposure and fee-driven meme coins make it a prime vehicle for grift and potential retail investor losses.

Elon Musk’s political bet with Trump boosted leverage but hurt his brand.

Swisher and Galloway contend Musk gained regulatory leniency and funding (e.g., Mars ambitions) but decimated Tesla’s brand appeal and alienated likely EV buyers by aligning with right‑wing politics that distrust electric cars.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

This is nothing but a weapon of insider trading.

— Scott Galloway

The trust in markets is literally the jet fuel of our prosperity.

— Scott Galloway

Foreign students are our cash cows.

— Scott Galloway

You can’t make policy based on Trump’s grift. He’s going to grift no matter what.

— Kara Swisher

When you have a $54 billion endowment and you let in the number of students that a good Starbucks serves, you’re not a public servant, you’re a fucking Chanel bag.

— Scott Galloway

Trump’s tariff strategy, “taco trade,” and court ruling limiting his authoritySystemic insider trading and erosion of trust in U.S. capital marketsElon Musk’s Doge role, deficits, tariffs, and impact on his businesses and brandUS soft power, foreign aid cuts, and the economic value of international studentsTrump’s feuds with Harvard, Putin, and Tim Cook/Apple’s China dependenceTrump’s aggressive embrace of crypto and political mobilization of the crypto communityGoogle’s Veo AI video tool, AI-generated media, and implications for creative work

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