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Kara Swisher Calls Out Elon Musk and Big Tech’s “Petty, Angry" People | Pivot

Kara and Scott discuss Ted Turner's legacy and unpack a major week of earnings from Warner Bros. Discovery, Paramount, and Disney. Plus, Anthropic teams up with SpaceX, the Elon Musk vs. OpenAI trial gets even messier, and just how good is ChatGPT at picking stocks? #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #elonmusk #samaltman #openai #tedturner #chatgpt #ai #stocks #warnerbros #paramount #disney #media #spacex #anthropic 00:00 Intro 00:24 Remembering Ted Turner 9:17 WBD, Paramount and Disney Earnings 21:40 Anthropic’s Deal with SpaceX 26:40 OpenAI vs. Musk Trial 37:24 ChatGPT Stock Management 48:18 Predictions Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Video Producer: RIch Shibley Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

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CHAPTERS

  1. Billionaires’ misery and the show’s target: petty feuds in Big Tech

    Kara opens with a broadside at today’s most powerful tech leaders, framing the episode around how wealth hasn’t produced happiness or maturity. The theme sets up later discussions about Musk, OpenAI, and the broader culture of ego-driven corporate warfare.

  2. Ted Turner’s legacy: visionary media builder and rare philanthropic billionaire

    Kara and Scott remember Ted Turner as a formative force in modern media—an entrepreneur who saw opportunity in 24/7 news and used his wealth for large-scale philanthropy. They argue Turner’s intentions were more civic-minded than what cable news later became.

  3. How cable news slid from reporting to ‘Point/Counterpoint’ conflict TV

    Scott traces the commercial discovery that outrage and confrontation drive ratings, citing early TV ‘Point/Counterpoint’ and its escalation into modern scream-fests. Turner’s original model is contrasted with Murdoch-era incentives and CNN’s own role in the shift.

  4. AOL Time Warner, CNN nostalgia, and the ‘worst acquisitions’ hall of fame

    They pivot from Turner to the corporate aftermath, noting Turner’s complicated feelings about selling and the long shadow of disastrous media mergers. Scott calls Time Warner a repeat offender in value-destroying deals, using it to frame today’s traditional-media decline.

  5. Earnings check: WBD’s losses, Paramount’s streaming progress, Disney’s strong beat

    Kara runs through recent quarterly results across major media companies, emphasizing cord-cutting pressure, streaming economics, and deal-driven accounting hits. Scott adds granular numbers and argues Disney looks undervalued despite strong performance.

  6. Disney’s crossroads: new CEO halo effect, activist pressure, and breakup scenarios

    Scott argues Disney’s beat reflects Iger-era decisions more than the new CEO’s early tenure, then explores why activists might target Disney given stagnant long-term stock performance. They discuss restructuring ideas and the speculative (but unlikely) Netflix-Disney combination.

  7. Anthropic’s compute crunch meets Musk’s ecosystem: SpaceX AI deal and reputational risk

    Anthropic’s explosive growth drives demand for compute, prompting a deal with Musk-linked infrastructure in Memphis. Kara questions the wisdom of getting entangled with Musk, while framing it as part of Musk’s ongoing rivalry with OpenAI and desire to regain relevance.

  8. Musk vs. OpenAI in court: ‘soap opera’ evidence vs. contract law reality

    They dismiss the case as buyer’s remorse dressed up as moral outrage, arguing courts care about agreements and governance rights, not interpersonal drama. Kara highlights how the trial exposes messy founder dynamics and governance sloppiness across elite tech circles.

  9. Why none of these people should be trusted with AGI: the need for regulation

    Kara broadens the critique: the richest tech leaders appear unhappy and unfit for stewarding transformative AI. Scott agrees the central problem is societal—AI governance shouldn’t depend on trusting founders, but on accountable public institutions.

  10. Can ChatGPT manage your portfolio? WSJ experiment and the limits of AI advice

    A reported test of ChatGPT for investing finds it can identify risks but makes errors, drifts into dubious strategies, and can be overly agreeable. Kara flags legal/liability risks and argues AI isn’t ready for personalized fiduciary-like investment advice.

  11. Retail vs. institutions: AI widens the gap, ETFs win, and ‘psychic income’ from trading

    Scott argues that elite funds will weaponize AI with massive resources, leaving retail traders outgunned. He recommends low-cost index investing for most people, while admitting trading provides entertainment value—and emotional cost—for those who can afford it.

  12. Predictions: crowdfunding-led buyouts and Kara’s forecast of legal/political backlash

    Scott predicts social-media-driven crowdfunding—supercharged by AI paperwork and payments—will soon enable retail groups to attempt acquisitions of distressed companies. Kara predicts aggressive government/legal actions against media and opponents will fail and backfire.

  13. Wrap-up: audience Q&A plug and tour announcements

    They invite listener questions and shift into promotion of Scott’s Prof G Markets tour and teasing another Pivot live tour. The episode closes with casual banter about sellouts and logistics.

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