Kara Swisher: Kash Patel is a “National Security Risk” | Pivot

Kara and Scott discuss Kash Patel’s defamation lawsuit against The Atlantic and Donald Trump’s attempt to appease Joe Rogan with an executive order on psychedelics. Then, they break down the U.S. seizure of an Iranian-flagged cargo ship, as JD Vance heads back to Pakistan for peace talks. Plus, Anthropic’s “productive” White House meeting, and Netflix’s push into vertical video and podcasts. #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #kashpatel #theatlantic #trump #joerogan #psychedelics #iran #jdvance #pakisten #anthropic #netflix #podcasts 00:00 Intro 00:17 Kash Patel Sues Atlantic 7:20 Trump’s Iran “Incompetence” 17:00 Joe Rogan Influences Executive Order 24:40 Anthropic Meets with The White House 39:58 Netflix Earnings 45:25 Streaming Bets on Podcasts 56:22 Wins and Fails Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Video Producer: Rich Shibley Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

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Apr 21, 20261h 6mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: April 21, 2026
Duration: 1h 6m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Kara and Scott discuss Kash Patel’s defamation lawsuit against The Atlantic and Donald Trump’s attempt to appease Joe Rogan with an executive order on psychedelics. Then, they break down the U.S. seizure of an Iranian-flagged cargo ship, as JD Vance heads back to Pakistan for peace talks. Plus, Anthropic’s “productive” White House meeting, and Netflix’s push into vertical video and podcasts. #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #kashpatel #theatlantic #trump #joerogan #psychedelics #iran #jdvance #pakisten #anthropic #netflix #podcasts 00:00 Intro 00:17 Kash Patel Sues Atlantic 7:20 Trump’s Iran “Incompetence” 17:00 Joe Rogan Influences Executive Order 24:40 Anthropic Meets with The White House 39:58 Netflix Earnings 45:25 Streaming Bets on Podcasts 56:22 Wins and Fails Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Video Producer: Rich Shibley Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

SPEAKERS

Scott Galloway
host
Business professor and commentator known for analysis of tech, markets, and media.
Kara Swisher
host
Journalist and podcast host covering technology, media, and politics.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Scott Galloway and Kara Swisher, Kara Swisher: Kash Patel is a “National Security Risk” | Pivot explores politics, AI trust, and Netflix shifts amid institutional incompetence debate They argue the Atlantic’s reporting on FBI Director Kash Patel depicts an alarming blend of incompetence and personal instability that creates a national security risk, and they expect the defamation suit to fail and Patel to be pushed out.

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