MAGA’s Uproar Over the Epstein Files Heats Up | Pivot

Kara and Scott unpack the MAGA civil war erupting over how the Trump administration is handling the Epstein files. Then, Trump continues to go tariff-wild, now threatening Russia, the EU, Mexico and more, and he's also reigniting his longtime feud with Rosie O'Donnell. Plus, Elon blurs lines between businesses with SpaceX investing in xAI, and Google makes a new AI acqui-hire in the latest Big Tech talent grab. #karaswisher #scottgalloway #pivotpodcast #MAGA #epstein #trump #tariffs #russia #rosieodonnell #elonmusk #spacex #ai #google #media #business #politics #tech Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 3:11 MAGA’s Epstein Civil War 14:19 Trump’s Tariff-palooza 24:07 Big Tech’s AI Poaching 25:04 SpaceX Will Invest in XAI 40:59 Don Lemon and Elon Musk Are Going to Court 44:31 Marc Andreessen Says Universities Will Pay 53:48 Wins and Fails Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

Kara SwisherhostScott GallowayhostGuest (On with Kara Swisher clip)guest

Jul 15, 20251h 6mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: July 15, 2025
Duration: 1h 6m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Kara and Scott unpack the MAGA civil war erupting over how the Trump administration is handling the Epstein files. Then, Trump continues to go tariff-wild, now threatening Russia, the EU, Mexico and more, and he's also reigniting his longtime feud with Rosie O'Donnell. Plus, Elon blurs lines between businesses with SpaceX investing in xAI, and Google makes a new AI acqui-hire in the latest Big Tech talent grab. #karaswisher #scottgalloway #pivotpodcast #MAGA #epstein #trump #tariffs #russia #rosieodonnell #elonmusk #spacex #ai #google #media #business #politics #tech Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 3:11 MAGA’s Epstein Civil War 14:19 Trump’s Tariff-palooza 24:07 Big Tech’s AI Poaching 25:04 SpaceX Will Invest in XAI 40:59 Don Lemon and Elon Musk Are Going to Court 44:31 Marc Andreessen Says Universities Will Pay 53:48 Wins and Fails Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

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Scott Galloway
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, MAGA’s Uproar Over the Epstein Files Heats Up | Pivot explores epstein Files Ignite MAGA Civil War And Broader Elite Reckoning Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway unpack how new Epstein-related revelations have triggered a fierce internal clash within MAGA media and political circles, especially over alleged cover-ups and Trump’s proximity to Epstein. They argue Trump is badly misreading the intensity of Epstein/QAnon-style conspiracism he helped cultivate, creating a self-inflicted perception of guilt and a damaging civil war on the right. The conversation broadens into tariffs, global trade, immigration and brain drain, the AI talent war and Elon Musk’s empire-building, and the outsized power of SpaceX. They close with critiques of DEI and elite universities, the corrosive role of anonymity, a defense of niche media, and a moving reflection on Scott’s late father and masculinity.

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