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Legendary athletes Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird discuss their new podcast "A Touch More," and weigh in on the increased popularity of women's sports, and why investors are finally seeing it as a business opportunity. They also chat with Kara and Scott about the impact of social media on athletes, and the dynamics of mixing business with the personal. Check out Vox Media's "A Touch More: The Podcast" weekly on Wednesdays on YouTube, Apple, and Spotify. Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot #pivot #podcast #meganrapinoe #suebird #womensspports #wnba #sports

Kara SwisherhostMegan RapinoeguestSue BirdguestScott Gallowayhost
Sep 9, 202412mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe Decode Women’s Sports Business Boom, Backlash

  1. Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe discuss the evolution of their project ‘A Touch More’ from a casual Instagram Live during COVID into a podcast focused on the intersection of women’s sports, culture, politics, and fashion. They argue that women’s sports, especially the WNBA, have already proven their value and are now crossing an ‘invisible line’ of celebrity long granted automatically to male athletes. The conversation explores underinvestment and rapid growth in women’s sports, the double standard around ‘potential,’ and the crucial yet toxic role of social media in building leagues and individual brands. They also touch on the challenges and boundaries of going into business as a couple while trying to preserve their relationship and personal time.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Women’s sports have already proven the product; now investors must catch up.

Bird emphasizes that the on-court product and business foundations in the WNBA have been strong for years; the league has grown largely without full corporate and media backing, and future upside depends on stakeholders finally investing based on demonstrated potential.

Crossing the ‘celebrity threshold’ changes how fans and partners view women’s leagues.

Bird describes an ‘imaginary line of celebrity’ that male athletes cross automatically; women players are only now crossing it, shifting public perception so that attending WNBA games or partnering with teams is seen as desirable rather than optional.

Underinvestment makes women’s sports one of the biggest growth assets in sports.

Rapinoe frames women’s sports as a massively undervalued asset class with room to grow across media, live events, and sponsorship because it has been historically neglected relative to men’s leagues.

Cultural shifts are shrinking the old ‘excuses’ not to back women’s sports.

Rapinoe argues that overt sexism, homophobia, and racism are less socially acceptable, and high-profile investors entering women’s teams show that prior rationales for not investing have worn thin.

Social media is both a growth engine and a mental health hazard for athletes.

Both note that social platforms have been essential for building the WNBA’s audience and player brands, yet they describe them as a ‘hellscape’ that normalizes negativity, urging athletes to avoid comment sections and maintain real-world support systems.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We already did it. The product on the floor has never been better.

Sue Bird

Somehow, we have crossed that line [of celebrity]. And now that we're on the other side, I just imagine business is gonna continue to boom.

Sue Bird

Men get invested on potential and what they might do eventually all the time. For women, it's like you have to do the thing, catch lightning in a bottle.

Megan Rapinoe

It's a fake place with real consequence.

Sue Bird on social media

I feel like the people with the money ran out of excuses for not investing in women's sports.

Megan Rapinoe

Origins and evolution of the ‘A Touch More’ podcast from IG LiveCurrent business trajectory and cultural moment of the WNBA and women’s sportsInvestment gaps, double standards, and the ‘potential’ argument in sports businessThe role of social media in athlete branding, league growth, and online toxicityShifting cultural attitudes around sexism, homophobia, and racism in sports investmentComparative value and future outlook of different sports leagues (NFL, NBA, women’s leagues)Dynamics and boundaries of building a joint business as a couple

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