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Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway dive into Meta’s new AI app, which is raising major privacy concerns due to its “creepy” personalized data features. They also discuss OpenAI’s structural shift away from for-profit status, and Bill Gates taking a shot at Elon Musk, while announcing the wind-down of the Gates Foundation. Plus, Tulsi Gabbard and Pete Hegseth face scrutiny for shockingly poor cybersecurity practices, the latest earnings from Disney and Uber, and some serious (and not-so-serious) listener predictions. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 7:27 India/Pakistan Conflict Escalates 10:52 OpenAI Abandons For Profit Plans 20:28 Trump’s Meeting with Carney 29:53 Gabbard and Hegseth’s Sloppy Passwords 36:00 The End of the Gates Foundation 41:54 Disney and Uber Earnings 45:37 Headed for Recession? 49:59 Meta’s “Creepy” AI 54:18 Predictions #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #india #pakistan #openai #carney #donaldtrump #tulsigabbard #petehegseth #disney #uber #recession #meta #ai Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

Kara SwisherhostScott GallowayhostMatt MarrguestRich (caller from Germany)guestMike from Oakland (caller)guest
May 8, 20251h 6mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Meta’s Guardrail-Free AI, Trump’s Crypto Grift, And AI Power Shifts

  1. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway bounce from personal banter into a wide-ranging discussion of global conflict, AI power structures, tech governance, and political corruption. They explore India–Pakistan tensions and the risk of U.S. diplomatic vacuums, then dissect OpenAI’s corporate reshuffle and Elon Musk’s lawsuit as mostly about control and money. A major segment examines Meta’s LLaMA and new AI app—its data advantages, virtually absent guardrails, and how social plus open source could make Meta the dominant AI player despite serious privacy risks. They also cover Trump-era kleptocracy via tariffs and crypto (Trump Coin), cybersecurity sloppiness by top officials, Bill Gates’s philanthropy and clash with Elon Musk, and solid earnings from Disney and Uber amid looming fears of tariffs and stagflation.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Meta is structurally positioned to become the dominant AI player by 2025.

With second-largest GPU purchases after Microsoft, 183 trillion tokens of data, and an open-source LLaMA model with few guardrails, Meta can make AI free, capture massive usage, and then monetize through ads and data—potentially outpacing GPT, Gemini, and Claude.

OpenAI’s governance change is more legal positioning than real mission shift.

Transforming the for-profit arm into a public benefit corporation controlled by the nonprofit—with essentially the same board—lets OpenAI argue in court that it’s still mission-driven, while practically keeping access to capital and upside intact against Musk’s lawsuit.

AI will likely boost broad productivity, but accelerates a loneliness crisis.

Galloway argues AI won’t become sentient or uniquely job-destroying long-term, but will “speedball loneliness” by offering cheap, frictionless substitutes for human relationships (AI companions, pornified chatbots), particularly harming young men already struggling to connect.

Trump-era economic policy is described as a kleptocracy centered on self-dealing.

Tariffs, Starlink pressure campaigns, and Trump-affiliated crypto projects (Trump Coin, Melania Coin, World Liberty Financial) are framed as tools to pick winners, reward big donors, invite foreign manipulation, and extract billions—while small businesses and workers lose.

Lax cybersecurity by top officials is a direct national security threat—and deeply hypocritical.

Revelations that Tulsi Gabbard reused simple passwords across critical accounts and Pete Hegseth used insecure channels for Pentagon business clash sharply with their past rhetoric on classified information and “two tiers of justice,” undermining morale and safety for service members.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Meta and LLaMA are frightening because it’s open source and has absolutely, as far as I can tell, no guardrails.

Scott Galloway

This is a kleptocracy... an individual that is acting like a mob boss who monetizes the United States and the White House.

Scott Galloway

The biggest threat of AI is that it's going to speedball loneliness.

Scott Galloway

The world's richest man has been involved in the deaths of the world's poorest children.

Bill Gates, as quoted and endorsed by Kara Swisher

If Trump brought half the competence, expertise, and elegance to governance as he does to grifting, the country would be in a much better place.

Scott Galloway

India–Pakistan tensions, China’s role, and U.S. diplomatic weaknessOpenAI’s nonprofit/for‑profit restructuring and Elon Musk’s legal attackMeta’s LLaMA, open-source AI dominance, and the “creepy” new Meta AI appTrump’s tariffs, Starlink deals, and alleged kleptocracy/crypto griftsCybersecurity failures by Tulsi Gabbard and Pete HegsethBill Gates’s $200B philanthropy plan and criticism of Elon MuskDisney and Uber earnings, autonomous vehicles, and recession vs. stagflation risks

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