Trump Ruined the Reflecting Pool. Now He's Arresting People for It | Pivot

Kara and Scott discuss Trump's mishandling of Iran, and his vandalism claims about the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool. Then, lots of drama in Europe as UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer resigns, and Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni feuds with Trump. Plus, a new book reveals how Trump mocked Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg, Amazon dumps the OpenAI movie, and SpaceX stock takes a tumble. 00:00 Intro 00:32 Reflecting Pool Fiasco 10:48 Keir Starmer Resigns 16:13 Trump vs. Meloni 23:10 Trump Mocks Zuckerberg & Bezos 28:39 Amazon Dumps OpenAI Movie 35:32 SpaceX Crash 46:27 Wins and Fails #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #trump #reflectingpool #lincolnmemorial #algae #vandal #keirstarmer #meloni #bezos #jeffbezos #markzuckerberg #amazon #openai #samaltman #spacex This episode is supported by Teleport: https://goteleport.com/pivot/?utm_source=the_pivot&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=vox_media_june_2026&utm_content=midroll Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

Kara SwisherhostScott Gallowayhost

Jun 23, 202658mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Released: June 23, 2026
Duration: 58m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Kara and Scott discuss Trump's mishandling of Iran, and his vandalism claims about the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool. Then, lots of drama in Europe as UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer resigns, and Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni feuds with Trump. Plus, a new book reveals how Trump mocked Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg, Amazon dumps the OpenAI movie, and SpaceX stock takes a tumble. 00:00 Intro 00:32 Reflecting Pool Fiasco 10:48 Keir Starmer Resigns 16:13 Trump vs. Meloni 23:10 Trump Mocks Zuckerberg & Bezos 28:39 Amazon Dumps OpenAI Movie 35:32 SpaceX Crash 46:27 Wins and Fails #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #trump #reflectingpool #lincolnmemorial #algae #vandal #keirstarmer #meloni #bezos #jeffbezos #markzuckerberg #amazon #openai #samaltman #spacex This episode is supported by Teleport: https://goteleport.com/pivot/?utm_source=the_pivot&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=vox_media_june_2026&utm_content=midroll Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

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Kara Swisher
host
Journalist and co-host of Pivot, covering tech, media, and politics.
Scott Galloway
host
Business professor and co-host of Pivot, focused on markets, strategy, and economics.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, Trump Ruined the Reflecting Pool. Now He's Arresting People for It | Pivot explores reflecting Pool fiasco sparks wider critique of Trump-era power dynamics They argue Trump’s claims of “vandalism” at the Reflecting Pool are a cover for incompetence and grift, and they frame the crackdown/arrests as emblematic of a broader authoritarian communication style.

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