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Who Would Be in Your Dream Cabinet? | Pivot

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway answer a listener question about the most important cabinet positions and their ideal nominees if they were president. From CNN anchors to senators to businessmen, are these picks better than President-elect Trump's nominees? Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot #pivot #podcast #donaldtrump #cabinet #cabinetpicks #markcuban #cnn #danabash #andersoncooper #amyklobuchar

Kara SwisherhostScott Gallowayhost
Dec 6, 20245mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Listener asks: most important cabinet roles + dream nominees

    Kara sets up a listener question from David about evaluating cabinet posts. The prompt has two parts: which roles matter most and who each host would appoint if they were president.

  2. Kara’s top three: Defense, Attorney General, and Treasury

    Kara names the roles she sees as most consequential for a presidency: Defense, DOJ/Attorney General, and Treasury. She frames them as core to national security, rule of law, and economic stability.

  3. Kara’s Treasury pick: Jamie Dimon

    Kara says she would have chosen JPMorgan’s Jamie Dimon for Treasury. The rationale is competence and experience managing large, complex financial systems.

  4. Kara on Defense: operational competence over political theatrics

    Kara doesn’t land on a single Defense nominee but outlines the profile she wants: someone who has served and can run big systems. She explicitly rejects Pete Hegseth as unqualified.

  5. Kara on Attorney General: less partisan, pro-democracy credentials

    Kara argues the AG should be less partisan and not an election denier, taking a swipe at Pam Bondi on that dimension. She notes Bondi has real qualifications but still prefers a nominee grounded in institutional legitimacy.

  6. Health & Human Services as a sleeper priority: Cuban over RFK Jr.

    Kara elevates HHS as newly urgent, tying it to systemic healthcare reform, diet, and chemical exposures. She proposes Mark Cuban as an agent of change and warns that RFK Jr. is dangerous—especially on vaccines—arguing for science-respecting leadership.

  7. Scott’s tongue-in-cheek “cable news cabinet” (Dana Bash, Anderson Cooper)

    Scott riffs that a CNN-led administration would outperform many current political nominees, naming Dana Bash as president and Anderson Cooper as vice president. The humor is paired with a serious point about basic competence.

  8. Scott blasts specific Trump picks: Hegseth, Navarro, Kash Patel

    Scott openly derides several proposed figures, using them as examples of what he sees as unqualified appointments. The segment underscores his core metric: competence over loyalty.

  9. Scott’s serious “dream cabinet” roles: Commerce, Education, HHS

    Scott pivots into substantive nominations: Michael Smerconish for Commerce, Michael Bennet for Education, and Vivek Murthy for HHS. He praises Murthy’s impact as Surgeon General, especially on loneliness and parental stress.

  10. Looks + competence: AOC, Ro Khanna, and Klobuchar for enforcement roles

    Scott jokes about giving AOC a role for her looks while also acknowledging her competence, then adds Ro Khanna as a strong contender. He highlights Amy Klobuchar as tough and suited for the FTC or DOJ, with Kara noting her antitrust credentials.

  11. If forced to serve: Scott chooses Education; Kara chooses CIA

    Kara asks what job Scott would take if he had no choice; he quickly answers Secretary of Education. Scott guesses (correctly) that Kara would want to run the CIA, leading into their playful dynamic about surveillance and control.

  12. Personal banter detour: late-night texts, edibles, and Fox invites

    They veer into friendly teasing: Kara admits late-night texting and worrying what Scott is up to; Scott describes a quiet night with music and an edible. Kara mentions Jess Tarlov and a possible trip to see ‘The Five,’ which Scott refuses.

  13. More media appointments: Neil Cavuto and Stephanie Ruhle as ambassador to France

    Scott adds Neil Cavuto to his list, though he doesn’t settle on a specific role. Prompted by Kara, he assigns Stephanie Ruhle as ambassador to France, imagining her hosting high-style diplomatic parties in Paris.

  14. Wrap-up: gratitude to the listener + ‘puppet master’ joking about governing

    They thank David for the question and joke about how fun it would be if Kara ran for president with Scott advising from behind the scenes. Kara likens Scott to Steve Bannon, ending on the idea they’d be effective (and entertained) by the exercise.

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