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Why Kara Swisher Finds Pete Hegseth's Unhinged Speech So "Terrifying"

Kara and Scott unpack Pete Hegseth’s macho vision for the military and Trump’s new AI safety deal. Then, they break down the shaky road to Wall Street for Anthropic and OpenAI, David Ellison’s new co-CEO at Paramount, and Amy Klobuchar’s viral fact-check on Capitol Hill. Kara and Scott are going on tour! Get your tickets at https://www.PivotTour.com Subscribe to Pivot! https://www.youtube.com/@pivot?sub_confirmation=1 00:00 Intro 2:10 Hegseth’s Vision for the Military 8:36 Trump’s AI Safety Deal 20:16 Anthropic’s IPO Filing 27:32 OpenAI Delays Its IPO—and Launches Dots 37:27 Mattel’s Ynon Kreiz Joins Ellison as Co-CEO 45:34 Amy Klobuchar Corrects the Record 51:51 Predictions #pivot #podcast #pivotpodcast #scottgalloway #karaswisher #petehegseth #secretaryofdefense #usmilitary #usmilitarynews #elonmusk #elon #musk #warfare #ai #aisafety #aiwarning #anthropic #openai #anthropicai #mattel #ellison #amyklobuchar #jacksmith #ouraring Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com About Pivot With great power, comes great scrutiny. Every Tuesday and Friday, journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. Episodes blend breaking news analysis with bold predictions, sharp debate, and the occasional argument between the two hosts. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Oct 2, 202657mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Released
October 2, 2026
Duration
57m
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Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Kara and Scott unpack Pete Hegseth’s macho vision for the military and Trump’s new AI safety deal. Then, they break down the shaky road to Wall Street for Anthropic and OpenAI, David Ellison’s new co-CEO at Paramount, and Amy Klobuchar’s viral fact-check on Capitol Hill. Kara and Scott are going on tour! Get your tickets at https://www.PivotTour.com Subscribe to Pivot! https://www.youtube.com/@pivot?sub_confirmation=1 00:00 Intro 2:10 Hegseth’s Vision for the Military 8:36 Trump’s AI Safety Deal 20:16 Anthropic’s IPO Filing 27:32 OpenAI Delays Its IPO—and Launches Dots 37:27 Mattel’s Ynon Kreiz Joins Ellison as Co-CEO 45:34 Amy Klobuchar Corrects the Record 51:51 Predictions #pivot #podcast #pivotpodcast #scottgalloway #karaswisher #petehegseth #secretaryofdefense #usmilitary #usmilitarynews #elonmusk #elon #musk #warfare #ai #aisafety #aiwarning #anthropic #openai #anthropicai #mattel #ellison #amyklobuchar #jacksmith #ouraring Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com About Pivot With great power, comes great scrutiny. Every Tuesday and Friday, journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. Episodes blend breaking news analysis with bold predictions, sharp debate, and the occasional argument between the two hosts. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

SPEAKERS

  • Scott Galloway

    host

    Business professor and co-host of the Pivot podcast.

  • Kara Swisher

    host

    Journalist and co-host of the Pivot podcast.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Scott Galloway and Kara Swisher, Why Kara Swisher Finds Pete Hegseth's Unhinged Speech So "Terrifying" explores culture-war defense theater meets unregulated AI expansion and risky mega-IPOs Swisher and Galloway condemn Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s “anti-woke” State of the Force rhetoric as intentionally dehumanizing culture-war messaging rather than serious military modernization.

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