Dr Rangan ChatterjeeThe Real Reason Pain, Fatigue & Anxiety Won't Go Away | Howard Schubiner
Episode Details
EPISODE INFO
- Released
- June 3, 2026
- Duration
- 1h 27m
- Channel
- Dr Rangan Chatterjee
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
The Thrive Tour: Transform Your Health and Happiness, a live show: Book Your Tickets https://drchatterjee.com/live This episode is brought to you by: AG1: Get FREE AG1 Flavour Sampler, AGZ Sampler, Vitamin D3+K2 and Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription (worth $87, US only) https://bit.ly/43FwxQl Imagine being told for 25 years that your pain is incurable – then making a full recovery within six weeks. That’s exactly what happened to one of the case studies in this episode and his story is far from exceptional. Could it be that much of the chronic pain we accept in life isn’t evidence our body is broken, but a sign our brain is trying to protect us? My guest this week is Dr Howard Schubiner, one of the world’s leading experts in chronic pain and the mind-body interaction. He’s spent more than 20 years working wonders with people who’d been told their pain was untreatable. He’s published over 100 scientific papers, runs one of the most respected programmes of its kind in the US, and his new book, Unlearn Your Pain, is set to transform how we think about suffering. To kick off this game-changing conversation, Howard debunks some common beliefs around pain, including the assumption that an MRI scan will accurately diagnose back issues. We talk about why bulging discs, degeneration and other scary-sounding findings show up just as often in people who aren’t in pain. And why the language used in scan reports can sometimes do real harm. To explain this, Howard talks us through the difference between structural and neuroplastic pain. The key learning here? All pain is created by the brain, through something called predictive processing. In structural pain, there’s clear tissue damage so your brain creates pain to help you protect the area and seek help. In neuroplastic pain, there’s some sort of perceived danger but no real injury. Here’s what’s important: both types are real. You are feeling pain. The difference is in the treatment. For that, Howard shares his five-part framework for reversing neuroplastic pain – and it has nothing to do with painkillers. He also reveals how the same principles can be applied to tinnitus, dizziness, brain fog, long covid, IBS, anxiety, depression, fatigue and more. We talk childhood, the personality traits that subtly make us more vulnerable to neuroplastic symptoms, and why women are so often the ones carrying the weight. Whether you're living with a long-term condition yourself, supporting someone who is, or you’re simply curious about the communication pathways between our bodies and our brains, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. #feelbetterlivemore Find out more about Dr Schubiner: Website https://unlearnyourpain.com/ Twitter https://twitter.com/hschubiner Dr Schubiner’s book: UNLEARN YOUR PAIN The Science of Recovering from Chronic Pain, Fatigue, Anxiety, and Depression US https://amzn.to/3RySyzy UK https://amzn.to/4u5Qv3s #feelbetterlivemore #feelbetterlivemorepodcast ------- Order MAKE CHANGE THAT LASTS. US & Canada version https://amzn.to/3RyO3SL, UK version https://amzn.to/3Kt5rUK ----- Follow Dr Chatterjee at: Website: https://drchatterjee.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drchatterjee Twitter: https://twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Newsletter: https://drchatterjee.com/subscription DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.
SPEAKERS
Dr. Rangan Chatterjee
hostMedical doctor and health communicator, host of the podcast/YouTube channel Dr Rangan Chatterjee.
Dr Howard Schubiner
guestPhysician and researcher known for work on neuroplastic (mind-body) symptoms and author of "Unlearn Your Pain".
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Dr Rangan Chatterjee, featuring Dr. Rangan Chatterjee and Dr Howard Schubiner, The Real Reason Pain, Fatigue & Anxiety Won't Go Away | Howard Schubiner explores chronic pain persists when brain learns danger, not damage signals Schubiner challenges the myth that pain always equals tissue damage, arguing that the brain interprets danger signals and can produce pain with or without injury.
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