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Molly Carlson on cliff diving, mental health & #bravegang | ReThinking with Adam Grant | TED

Molly Carlson (@mollycarlson1) is a professional high diver, three-time runner-up at the Red Bull Cliff Diving World Series, and the founder of Brave Gang, an online community of people who encourage each other to face their fears together.

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Sep 11, 202537mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Cliff diver Molly Carlson on fear, identity, and mental health

  1. Carlson describes the physical realities of high diving—speed, impact, and narrow margins for error—and why the sport demands calculated risk rather than recklessness.
  2. She recounts how chasing an “ideal” judging-sport body contributed to anxiety, binge eating disorder, and a painful Olympic-trials period that ultimately pushed her to seek help.
  3. Carlson argues that fear is protective when respected, and shares mental skills (acknowledging fear, routines, visualization, and reps) to keep fear functional instead of paralyzing.
  4. She explains how posting online led to #BraveGang, a large community built around sharing “brave” acts, which both supports others and strengthens her own resilience.
  5. The conversation reframes bravery as not just jumping from height, but also setting boundaries, asking for help, and rejecting harmful body standards in sport and online spaces.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

High diving is calculated, not impulsive.

Carlson emphasizes that at ~65–80 km/h even slight entry errors can mean serious injury, so athletes only attempt dives when physically and mentally prepared.

Fear belongs in high-risk performance—ignoring it increases mistakes.

She links her concussion to getting overly comfortable and distracted (trying to film the “best TikTok”), arguing that respecting fear keeps decision-making smart and safe.

Don’t fight fear; relocate it.

Her coach’s “paper in front of your eyes” metaphor helps her move fear to the side—allowing fear to exist without consuming attention needed for execution.

Routines can override panic in the final seconds.

A rhythmic pre-dive sequence (consistent breathing and timing) reduces overthinking, letting muscle memory take over—an approach reinforced by advice from Greg Louganis.

Some ‘failures’ are exits from toxic systems.

Missing the Olympic team felt like relief because it ended an extreme, malnourished, anxiety-driven pursuit—highlighting that unmet dreams can create room for recovery and perspective.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Finally asking for help was the bravest thing I've ever done. People ask me that to this day. They're like, "Jumping must be the bravest thing." I'm like, "No, I will jump off a million cliffs before I finally talk about mental health," 'cause it's so hard and so scary.

— Molly Carlson

The trick in high diving is to learn that you should not try to push away fear.

— Molly Carlson

Gently shift that piece of paper to the side. That fear can simply exist beside you. Fear can absolutely be there. It should be there in your sport. But I'm gonna put you just right here so that I can give my full attention to doing the best and safest dive that I can," and that changed my life.

— Molly Carlson

I was eating under 300 calories a day trying to perform at 30 hours a week. You can't be doing that, and my body tried to tell me. My hair was falling out.

— Molly Carlson

I crave my brain to shut off my entire life, and as soon as I jump, it's just me in the air for those three seconds, and anxiety doesn't exist. Like, it's just, it's beautiful. It's bliss.

— Molly Carlson

Read the available transcript
Impact and speed at 20–27 metersLearning elite dives under pressureFear as a safety mechanismMental performance coaching techniquesOlympic trials disappointment and reliefBinge eating disorder and body dysmorphia#BraveGang community and boundaries

SPEAKERS

  • Molly Carlson

    guest

    Canadian high diver and Red Bull Cliff Diving athlete, founder of the “Brave Gang” community.

  • Adam Grant

    host

    Organizational psychologist and professor, host of ReThinking with Adam Grant.

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