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The US should let the internet rewrite its laws!

Hélène Landemore is a political scientist at Yale who studies democracy. She has a radical idea for fixing politics: what if we replaced career politicians with citizen assemblies, filled with people chosen by lottery? In this episode, Hélène and Adam discuss the history of this idea, tracing back to Ancient Greece and the birth of democracy, as well as recent examples of countries and states that have tried this bold method of governance. Hélène responds to some common questions and concerns about citizen assemblies, and Adam breaks down some evidence supporting the notion that ordinary citizens may be more fit to serve and lead than professional politicians. Host & Guest Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: https://adamgrant.net/) Hélène Landemore (Website: https://www.helenelandemore.com/) Links Politics Without Politicians: The Case for Citizen Rule - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0593713982 Join us in person at a TED conference: https://tedtalks.social/events Become a TED Member to support our mission: https://ted.com/membership Subscribe to a TED newsletter: https://ted.com/newsletters Follow TED! X: https://www.twitter.com/TEDTalks Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ted Facebook: https://facebook.com/TED LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ted-conferences TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tedtoks Podcasts: https://www.ted.com/podcasts The TED Audio Collective is a collection of podcasts for the curious. The TED Audio Collective videos may be used for non-commercial purposes under a Creative Commons License, Attribution–Non Commercial–No Derivatives (or the CC BY – NC – ND 4.0 International) and in accordance with our TED Talks Usage Policy (https://www.ted.com/about/our-organiz...). For more information on using TED for commercial purposes (e.g. employee learning, in a film or online course), please submit a Media Request at https://media-requests.ted.com.

Hélène Landemoreguest
Feb 10, 20260mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:30

    Iceland’s citizen-led constitution as a “second shock” in democratic innovation

    Hélène Landemore describes encountering the Icelandic constitutional process in 2012 and feeling stunned by how radically it reimagined citizen participation. She frames it as proof that ordinary people—not just career politicians—can meaningfully take part in foundational lawmaking.

    • Landemore calls the Icelandic process her “second shock”
    • 2012 conference in Reykjavik as the moment of exposure
    • A new model: involving ordinary citizens in writing a national constitution
    • Challenge to the assumption that constitutions must be drafted by professional politicians
  2. 0:30 – 0:49

    Publishing draft constitutions online for broad public input

    A central feature that impressed Landemore was the decision to put constitutional drafts online so the wider public could comment and contribute ideas. She highlights the openness and iterative public feedback as a major departure from traditional closed-door constitutional drafting.

    • Drafts were posted online for public contribution
    • The public could “chip in” ideas and feedback
    • Online participation broadened involvement beyond the core drafters
    • Signals a more transparent, iterative drafting process

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