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What Mentally Strong People Do on Their Worst Days | Psychotherapist Amy Morin

Be honest: you've taken a mental health day that made you feel worse. You stayed in bed, you avoided the thing, and by evening it was still waiting for you—with less of the day left to face it. Amy Morin thinks the problem starts with the word. We treat mental health as something you either have or you don't… and framed that way, there's nothing to actually do on a bad day. Her work runs on the opposite premise: mental strength is a practice, and you build it like you'd build anything else. Amy is a psychotherapist, a clinical social worker, and the author of the bestseller _13 Things Mentally Strong People Don't Do_ and the new _The Mental Strength Playbook._ She became a therapist at 22 and lost her mother at 23. Three years later—to the day—her husband died, and the mental health agency where she worked gave her three days of bereavement leave. She built the practices that became her book in real time, from there. In this conversation, Amy walks through exactly what she did to get mentally fit. Not as theory, but as the small, unglamorous things that got her out of bed. And I press her on the question nobody in her field says out loud: whether an industry built to help us has any incentive to finish the job. *In this episode you'll learn:* ➡️ Why the mental health day you take to feel better isn’t helping ➡️ How to tell whether to solve the problem or solve the feeling (most of us pick wrong) ➡️ The 15-minute daily exercise Amy's clients say lifts the weight of the world ➡️ Why "I am anxious" and "I have anxiety sometimes" build two different lives ➡️ How to compromise with yourself on a bad day instead of going all-or-nothing ➡️ Why "I'm just staying busy" is avoidance we've learned to compliment ➡️ What playing the victim actually gives you (+ why it's so hard to give up) ➡️ Simon's rule for hard days: no crying alone Amy's argument is a hopeful one: the feeling follows the action. Do one small, ordinary thing today, and you've already started. *This… is A Bit of Optimism.* + + + This episode is brought to you by SAP. Bring it with SAP GROW. The AI Cloud ERP for any size business. Learn more at https://SAP.com/GROW + + + If you’d like to buy Amy’s new book, _The Mental Strength Playbook,_ head to: https://amymorinlcsw.com/books/ + + + *Chapters* 00:00:00 The Shy Girl Who Found Her Voice Through Tragedy 00:02:43 Mental Fitness vs Mental Health: Why Words Matter 00:06:26 The Depression Patient Who Actually Got Better 00:09:10 Why Mental Health Days Can Make You Feel Worse 00:17:17 The Two Months That Changed Everything 00:21:37 How to Find Hope When Life Feels Hopeless 00:28:45 The Problem We're Solving vs The Feeling We're Solving 00:35:20 The Comeback Story: Choosing How Tragedy Shapes You 00:39:42 Playing the Victim Feels Good, and That's the Problem 00:45:55 Breaking Patterns: From Narcissistic Exes to Self-Accountability 00:50:30 I Am vs I Have: The Language That Changes Everything 00:53:07 The Therapist's Bad Habit: Why Even Experts Struggle 00:54:37 Schedule Your Worry: The 15-Minute Exercise That Lifts Weight Off Your Shoulders 00:59:09 No Crying Alone: The Honor of Sitting in the Mud With Someone + + + Simon is an unshakable optimist. He believes in a bright future and our ability to build it together. Described as “a visionary thinker with a rare intellect,” Simon has devoted his professional life to help advance a vision of the world that does not yet exist; a world in which the vast majority of people wake up every single morning inspired, feel safe wherever they are and end the day fulfilled by the work that they do. Simon is the author of multiple best-selling books including _Start With Why,_ _Leaders Eat Last,_ _Together is Better,_ and _The Infinite Game._ + + + Website: http://simonsinek.com/ Leaderful: https://simonsinek.com/leaderful Podcast: http://apple.co/simonsinek Instagram: https://instagram.com/simonsinek/ Linkedin: https://linkedin.com/in/simonsinek/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/simonsinek Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/simonsinek + + + #SimonSinek

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Sep 22, 20261h 1mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Mental fitness over labels: practical tools for hardest emotional days

  1. Amy Morin and Simon Sinek argue that “mental fitness” is a more useful concept than “mental health” because it frames wellbeing as an ongoing practice rather than a binary status.
  2. They distinguish clinical disorders from ordinary human emotions and warn that social-media therapy language can encourage over-labeling and self-diagnosis.
  3. Much popular coping advice backfires because it prioritizes immediate comfort (avoidance, staying in bed, ghosting) over actions that improve life over time.
  4. A key framework is deciding whether to solve the problem or manage the feeling, depending on what is actually within your control.
  5. They explore how victimhood and identity-based language (“I am anxious,” “I’m avoidant”) keep people stuck, and offer practical tools like journaling patterns, scheduling worry, and leaning on social support.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Reframe “mental health” as “mental fitness” to emphasize practice over perfection.

Morin argues “mental health” is often treated like a pass/fail state, whereas “mental fitness” better captures an ongoing practice with daily variability (sleep, food, stress, relationships). Framing it as fitness makes it easier to take action, track habits, and expect setbacks without shame.

Feeling anxious or sad isn’t automatically a mental illness—labels can distort reality.

They distinguish clinical disorders (e.g., major depression) from normal emotions (sadness, stress, pre-presentation anxiety). Social media labels can cause people to pathologize everyday feelings or self-diagnose based on common experiences.

Short-term relief strategies often create long-term mental health debt.

Morin describes how avoidance (staying in bed as a “mental health day,” ignoring bills, ghosting) can relieve discomfort immediately but worsens life over time by keeping problems intact and shrinking engagement with life. Her depression example includes a practical countermeasure: a written “reasons to go to work” list for mornings when motivation collapses.

Ask: “Am I solving the problem—or just trying to stop the feeling?”

A core decision rule: if the situation is controllable, solve the problem (e.g., pay the bills) rather than trying to soothe the anxiety; if it’s uncontrollable (e.g., someone else’s behavior), focus on managing your feelings and your own choices. Confusing these leads to either avoidance or futile attempts to control others.

Playing the victim can feel empowering—but it often blocks agency and change.

They describe victimhood as emotionally rewarding because it provides validation, reduces self-scrutiny, and justifies staying stuck; it differs from truly being a victim of harm. Growth begins when someone can grieve/vent initially but then transitions into accountability and change.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I gave the eulogy at my husband's funeral, and in that moment I was like, "I don't care if I embarrass myself, if I stumble over my words. Like I don't care how I sound. It's not about me."

Amy Morin

The typical, quote unquote, mental health day, staying in bed doesn't reduce your depression, right?

Amy Morin

We forget to differentiate between, like, solving the problem or versus solving how we feel about the problem.

Amy Morin

You will usually choose familiar pain over the unknown every single time unless we get proactive about it.

Amy Morin

My rule with my friends is no crying alone.

Simon Sinek

Mental fitness vs mental health framingClinical diagnosis vs normal emotionsAvoidance and “mental health days”CBT and automatic thoughtsProblem-solving vs feeling-managementVictimhood and self-pity loopsIdentity language (“I am” vs “I have”) and hope-building narratives

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