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Eric Weinstein Interview (Full Episode) | The Tim Ferriss Show (Podcast)

My guest this episode is my friend, Eric Weinstein (@ericrweinstein), managing director of Thiel Capital, a Ph.D in mathematical physics from Harvard, and a research fellow at the Mathematical Institute of Oxford University. We recorded at my house after Eric emailed me this question: “Wanna try a podcast on… psychedelics, theories of everything, and the need to destroy education in order to save it?” He’s brilliant and hilarious. If you enjoyed my podcasts with Derek Sivers or Sam Harris, you’ll love this one. Connect with Eric Weinstein: Follow Eric Weinstein on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ericrweinstein 00:00 Start 5:23 An accidental economist 8:03 The mathematician at Thiel Capital 13:28 First-principle thinking and facing criticism 17:18 On playing music 21:58 On learning languages 29:58 Explaining the Overton Window 36:33 When an innovator leaves a successor 40:43 How autodidacts can pave a path for successors 44:28 How to see the world like a high-agency person 47:18 Most gifted books 49:58 Contemplating a move to the Bay Area? 51:33 Understanding Peter Thiel’s Zero to One 54:23 Seeing what others can’ see 59:18 How Thiel Capital approaches problems 1:01:58 Canonical design and commonplace solutions 1:06:38 And ideal high school class 1:14:43 Embodiments of success 1:18:33 A favorite purchase under $100 1:20:33 Morning rituals and work cycles 1:25:18 Eric’s billboard 1:26:43 Advice to Eric’s 30-year-old self 1:28:28 A request of the audience 1:31:33 Eric’s first experience with psychedelic drugs Eric Weinstein on Challenging “Reality,” Working with Peter Thiel, and Destroying Education to Save It Show Notes: http://fourhourworkweek.com/2016/01/13/eric-weinstein/ SUBSCRIBE: http://bit.ly/1dSzTkW About Tim Ferriss: Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 200 million downloads and been selected for “Best of iTunes” three years running. Connect with Tim Ferriss: Visit the Tim Ferriss PODCAST: https://bit.ly/2rYjUBr Visit the Tim Ferriss BLOG: http://bit.ly/17jDHw3 Like Tim Ferriss on FACEBOOK: http://on.fb.me/1avYUxq Follow Tim Ferriss on TWITTER: http://bit.ly/17d94TE Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: http://bit.ly/2IfH37J Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: http://bit.ly/2IfH37J

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Jan 30, 20161h 40mWatch on YouTube ↗

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Eric Weinstein on Self-Teaching, High Agency, and Breaking Consensus Thinking

  1. Weinstein recounts his unconventional path from mathematical physics to Thiel Capital, saying Peter Thiel looks for the few people who think from first principles.
  2. He argues that self-teachers rarely leave successors, using Kung Fu Panda as a metaphor, and calls for a parallel educational structure for high-agency, creative people.
  3. The conversation covers how breakthroughs happen, with examples like wheeled luggage, the foam table tennis bat, and the umbrella problem, plus heuristics such as spotting too many moving parts and borrowing solutions across fields.
  4. Weinstein criticizes consensus and the narrowing of acceptable debate, and Ferriss proposes the term 'bigoteer' for people who hastily label others.
  5. In rapid-fire questions, Weinstein shares his habits, from late-night deep work and a ritual of obscenities to advice for his younger self, and he teases psychedelics as a topic for a later episode.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Thinking for yourself is hard and socially risky

Weinstein says outside pressures to be loved and fit in make independent thinking frightening, because it can put you at odds with the community you depend on.

Expertise can be taught, but creativity and genius are not yet

Using Kung Fu Panda, Weinstein argues that over-taught students lose the self-teaching mode, and he proposes a parallel educational structure for high-agency people instead of relying on traumatic births.

Zero to One only works if you have a secret

Weinstein says the book presumes you understand an important truth the world thinks is nonsense, and most people haven't had such an idea, so building a company without one is like a car with no engine.

Innovation clues come from design and what has changed

He suggests counting moving parts, asking what has changed since the problem was first considered, checking against canonical design in nature, and importing solutions from other fields like origami.

Labeling kids 'learning disabled' may hide teaching limits

Weinstein argues many so-called learning-disabled kids are super learners with deficits, and that classroom economics requires one teacher to lead 20 or more students in lockstep.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I think the problem is the average person has never had an idea, a really powerful, personal idea.

— Eric Weinstein

I often make this joke that the scientific method is the radio edit of great science.

— Eric Weinstein

It will always be the case that the leaders of the field, uh, are the, uh, misfits in the back throwing spitballs rather than the good kids who are always there on time raising their hands.

— Eric Weinstein

We know how to ex- uh, impart expertise, but we don't know how to impart creativity and genius.

— Eric Weinstein

In general, consensus is how we bully people into pretending that, uh, there's nothing to see, you know, move along everyone.

— Eric Weinstein

First-principles thinkingWhy self-teachers can't leave successorsHigh agency and the Bay AreaSpotting breakthrough innovationsOverton Window and consensusLearning music and languagesRethinking education and the Thiel Fellowship

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