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Pavel Tsatsouline Q&A (Full Episode) | The Tim Ferriss Show (Podcast)

Pavel Tsatsouline is Chairman of StrongFirst, Inc. and was born in Minsk, USSR, which is now part of Belarus. In the 1980s, he was a physical-training instructor for Spetnaz, the elite Soviet special-forces units. Pavel is now a subject matter expert to the US Marine Corps, the US Secret Service, and the US Navy SEALs. He is widely credited with introducing the now ubiquitous kettlebell to the United States. Whether you’ve heard of him or not, prepare to have your mind blown, and I don’t say that lightly 🙂 Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 02:50 Eating for hypertrophy 04:07 How to combine strength and hypertrophy training 04:42 80/20 training method 06:30 Developing proper alignment 07:28 Proper conditioning 13:00 On being able to "switch on and off" 16:50 How to press a lot 17:58 Neurological strength 18:55 How much weight you should lift 19:36 What age to dial back on lifting 20:15 When to apply 3–5-minute rest periods 21:08 Acing a sit-ups test 21:56 Better deadlifts 22:57 For personal trainers: "students" not "clients" Connect with Pavel Tsatsouline: Like Pavel Tsatsouline on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bestrongfirst Follow Pavel Tsatsouline on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bestrongfirst Follow Pavel Tsatsouline on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongfirst Pavel Tsatsouline on the Science of Strength and the Art of Physical Performance Show Notes: http://fourhourworkweek.com/2015/01/15/pavel-tsatsouline/ SUBSCRIBE: http://bit.ly/1dSzTkW About Tim Ferriss: Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 200 million downloads and been selected for “Best of iTunes” three years running. Connect with Tim Ferriss: Visit the Tim Ferriss PODCAST: https://bit.ly/2rYjUBr Visit the Tim Ferriss BLOG: http://bit.ly/17jDHw3 Like Tim Ferriss on FACEBOOK: http://on.fb.me/1avYUxq Follow Tim Ferriss on TWITTER: http://bit.ly/17d94TE Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: http://bit.ly/2IfH37J Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: http://bit.ly/2IfH37J

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Nov 2, 201525mWatch on YouTube ↗

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CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:29

    Setting Up the Pavel Q&A Round

    Tim Ferriss explains that this follow-up episode has Pavel Tsatsouline answering the 15 most popular audience-voted questions. He introduces Pavel's background and points listeners to the first interview.

    • •Follow-up to an earlier Pavel episode described as a strength training master class
    • •Pavel has trained Spetsnaz, the Marine Corps, Secret Service and Navy SEALs
    • •Top 15 questions were chosen by audience votes
    • •The first interview can be found by searching Pavel's name and Tim's
  2. 2:29 – 4:48

    Eating for Hypertrophy and Combining Strength with Size

    Pavel skips most nutrition questions but answers Carl's on eating for muscle gain, describing a middle-of-the-night feeding. He then recommends sets of five as a minimalist way to build both strength and muscle.

    • •Pavel says nutrition is not his specialty and answers only one such question
    • •The body resists adding muscle, so you must convince it food is abundant
    • •Top lifters such as Kurt Kobaski added a feeding in the middle of the night
    • •Sets of five deliver both muscle and strength
  3. 4:48 – 6:32

    The 80/20 Method: Kettlebell Training

    Pavel names correct kettlebell training as the 80/20 approach for strength and overall fitness. He describes the 'what the hell effect' and recommends a daily program minimum of three exercises.

    • •Training all fitness components with one modality usually brings compromises
    • •Kettlebells let you develop strength, endurance, flexibility and power together
    • •The 'what the hell effect' is improvement in untrained tests like pull-ups
    • •Program minimum: one-arm swing, get-up and goblet squat daily
  4. 6:32 – 7:32

    Fixing Alignment: Which Doctor to See

    In answer to a listener with one side shorter and weaker, Pavel advises finding a sports doctor or chiropractor who is an athlete and lifter. He then suggests an FMS-certified specialist.

    • •Choose a doctor who works with athletes and lifters
    • •Pavel's personal rule is not to see a chiropractor who deadlifts less than he does
    • •FMS (functional movement screen) was created by Gray Cook
    • •FMS assesses symmetry and helps improve performance
  5. 7:32 – 13:08

    Building Conditioning: Relaxation, Breathing, and Fast-Fiber Endurance

    Pavel lays out several conditioning strategies: efficient posture, relaxation drills, relaxed running, respiratory muscle training and breathing discipline. He also describes building mitochondria in fast-twitch fibers with short, powerful efforts and long active rests.

    • •Posture and relaxation improve efficiency; shaking out limbs is a Soviet practice
    • •Run without a clock, as relaxed as possible, for as far as possible
    • •Biomechanical breathing match and breathing ladders train respiratory muscles and discipline
    • •Respiratory muscle metabolites constrict limb blood vessels
    • •10–15 second maximal efforts with 1:5 or 1:6 work-to-rest build mitochondria in fast fibers
  6. 13:08 – 16:51

    Switching On and Off: Relaxation, Morning Exercise, and Mental Training

    Pavel answers how to switch yourself on and off, covering progressive relaxation, facial tension, morning calisthenics and Ibuki breathing. He recommends the book Psych by Dr. Judd Biasotto and tells the story of Biasotto sleeping between lifts.

    • •Most people exist between the on and off switch
    • •Jacobson's progressive relaxation and attention to facial tension help you switch off
    • •Gentle morning exercises accelerate peak performance by a couple of hours
    • •Ibuki breathing helps with power and aggression
    • •Judd Biasotto squatted over 600 pounds at age 44 and slept between attempts
  7. 16:51 – 18:57

    Pressing More and Neurological Strength

    Pavel explains that to press a lot you must press a lot, using high volume in low reps without failure. He then explains neurological strength using a six-cylinder engine analogy.

    • •Press 20 to 50 reps per session, three times a week
    • •Stay at one to five reps per set, using one third to two thirds of max reps
    • •Neurological strength means activating existing muscle more intensely
    • •It is built with lower reps, heavier weights and perfect practice
  8. 18:57 – 19:37

    Knowing When to Add Weight Without Training to Failure

    Responding to questions from Nick and Kellen, Pavel says to use perceived rate of exertion on a 1 to 10 scale. If the same weight goes from about eight units of effort to six or seven, you have gotten stronger.

    • •Strength training should not go to failure
    • •Rate your typical set's effort on a 1–10 scale
    • •A drop in perceived effort at the same weight shows you got stronger
  9. 19:37 – 20:16

    Gaining Strength as You Get Older

    Answering a 39-year-old who finds heavy lifts hard on his joints, Pavel advises getting joints checked by a doctor and getting your head in the right place. He cites his 77-year-old father deadlifting over 400 pounds without a belt.

    • •Step one is to have joints checked by a doctor
    • •Step two is mindset about age
    • •Pavel's father deadlifts over 400 pounds at 77 without a belt
  10. 20:16 – 21:09

    Rest Intervals: When to Use 3–5 Minutes

    Pavel describes three types of rest intervals: ordinary, stress and stimulating. Unless a program says otherwise, he recommends the ordinary interval of about three to five minutes.

    • •Ordinary intervals restore performance by the next set, about 3–5 minutes
    • •Stress intervals accumulate fatigue across sets
    • •Stimulating intervals improve the next set and may take about 12 minutes
    • •Default to ordinary intervals unless the program says otherwise
  11. 21:09 – 21:59

    Acing the Army Sit-Up Test

    For a listener facing the Army sit-up test, Pavel says to first make your abs very strong with low-rep, heavy-tension work and long rests. Afterward, only minimal practice of the test itself is needed.

    • •Do 3–5 sets of 3–5 reps with 3–5 minutes rest
    • •Exercises include strict hanging leg raises, the ab wheel and strict weighted sit-ups
    • •Once strong, minimal practice of the sit-up test is enough
  12. 21:59 – 23:00

    Deadlift Back Spasms and Alternatives

    Pavel advises a listener with back spasms from deadlifting to see a lifting doctor to learn restrictions. If cleared, find a good powerlifting coach; if not, ask about alternatives such as the kettlebell swing.

    • •See a doctor who understands lifting to find limitations
    • •If cleared, learn proper form from a good powerlifting coach
    • •Corrective exercises may be needed
    • •Ask the doctor about the kettlebell swing as an alternative
  13. 23:00 – 25:09

    For Trainers: Treat Clients as Students

    Answering a personal trainer, Pavel says to stop thinking of trainees as clients, who passively receive a service, and treat them as students. He then thanks Tim and closes the Q&A.

    • •Hair salons have clients
    • •A client passively receives a service
    • •Trainees should think of themselves as students, and trainers should treat them that way

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