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Tim FerrissSeth Godin Interview (Full Episode) | The Tim Ferriss Show (Podcast)
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Seth Godin on Saying No, Fear, Audiobooks, Money, and Making Change
- Godin describes his quirky personal pursuits, from roasting coffee beans he doesn't drink and infusing vodka to collecting cookbooks, building a handmade stereo system, and obsessing over bean-to-bar chocolate.
- He explains how he protects his mission by limiting speaking engagements, skipping Twitter, meetings, investing, and pitches, and turning down a billion dollars in stock options and TV offers.
- On entrepreneurship, he distinguishes freelancers from entrepreneurs, urges selling something people already want, and says the real obstacle to starting is fear rather than lack of talent.
- He lays out his views on education and the altMBA, arguing that kids should learn to lead and solve interesting problems, and that social pressure and projects beat free online courses.
- He shares a list of audiobooks he returns to repeatedly, plus views on money as a story, daily blogging as a practice, and the value of failure.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasRules for saying no protect your mission.
Godin limits speaking to about 30 a year, charges more for distant locations, and doesn't invest, take pitches, or go to meetings; Ferriss agrees that saying no to all of something is easier than filtering the top 1%.
Start with something people already want to buy.
Godin tells the story of his friend Lynn, who sold 5 million decks of cards after moving from toy companies to book publishers, and argues it's better to push a business downhill than uphill.
Fear, not lack of qualification, blocks entrepreneurs.
Godin says entrepreneurial block, like writer's block, comes from fear, and people must decide whether they care enough to dance with a fear that never goes away.
Write badly to get to good ideas.
Godin dismisses writers' rituals and says the answer to a bad writing day is to keep writing poorly until it's not bad anymore, since people with many good ideas have even more bad ones.
Money is a story you choose.
Using a $10 bill example, Godin argues value depends on mutual belief, and after meeting basic needs people should decide how much more money they want and what they'll trade for it; he turned down a billion dollars in stock options at a startup.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesSo the goal isn't to get good ideas, the goal is to get bad ideas, 'cause once you get enough bad ideas, then some good ones have to show up.
— Seth Godin
People get entrepreneurial block for only one reason. It is not because they are not qualified. It is not because they are not passionate. It is because they are afraid.
— Seth Godin
Social media wasn't invented to make you better. It was invented to make the companies money.
— Seth Godin
We don't need folks like that to go from 90 words per minute to 105 words per minute when they type. It's not a factor. What we need is for them to type something that's worth reading.
— Seth Godin
You are more powerful than you think you are. Act accordingly.
— Seth Godin
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