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The Random Show — Blockchain/Crypto Investing, NFT Experiments, Dogecoin, Zen Buddhism, and More

Technologist, serial entrepreneur, world-class investor, self-experimenter, and all-around wild and crazy guy Kevin Rose (@KevinRose) rejoins me for another episode of “The Random Show.”

Tim FerrisshostKevin Roseguest
Aug 18, 20212h 38mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Ferriss and Rose on health experiments, crypto/NFTs, sleep, and Zen

  1. Kevin Rose opens by recounting a difficult bout of nausea after jumping his Ozempic dose, leading into a broader discussion of glucose control, exercise, and supplement/compound experimentation.
  2. Tim Ferriss and Kevin Rose compare training approaches focused on mobility, strength, and real-world function, with Tim favoring ‘weighted mobility’ and Kevin crediting Pilates with resolving recurring back issues.
  3. They discuss NFTs as both a speculative frenzy and a legitimate emerging medium, including how Tim might mint an NFT without signaling a ‘cash grab’ and how generative art platforms like Art Blocks work.
  4. The conversation shifts to crypto investing pitfalls—meme-coin hype, panic-selling, and lack of investor education—along with frameworks like dollar-cost averaging, long holding periods, and earning yield on idle crypto.
  5. They close with daily ‘architecture’ changes centered on sleep optimization (sun exposure timing, fish oil, magnesium, sleep tracking) and Kevin’s year-long Sanbo Zen meditation practice motivated by pandemic-era depression and stress.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Experimenting with health “compounds” can have abrupt tradeoffs, especially with dosing changes.

Kevin Rose explains he has issues with glucose disposal and says he tried Ozempic (prescribed by a physician) to lower glucose, skipped the suggested ramp-up dose, and woke up nauseated and vomiting; Tim Ferriss mentions Zofran as a nausea reducer and notes it’s also used in some clinical ketamine contexts.

Both hosts frame “feeling good” and functional movement as the training goal, not maximal size.

Tim Ferriss describes his current training priorities as maintaining strength and mobility: conventional weight training once or twice weekly, climbing a few times weekly (often followed by lifting), kettlebell swings, and rucking; he emphasizes decompression/hanging for his back and prefers building flexibility via strength in end ranges (“weighted mobility”) over passive stretching.

Core/stabilizer work (e.g., Pilates) is described as highly transferable to real-life strain prevention.

Kevin Rose says Pilates twice a week dramatically reduced his recurring back “throw-out” episodes from handling toddlers, highlighting the role of core and stabilizer strength; Tim agrees technical Pilates can be extremely challenging and beneficial, especially paired with strength training.

They treat NFT creation as an experiment in learning and positioning, not just monetization.

Tim Ferriss says he’s avoided creating an NFT partly because he doesn’t want to be seen as cashing in on speculative mania, but he’s interested in minting to learn; Kevin suggests doing it with proceeds going to charity to reduce ‘money grab’ perception and proposes formats like audio clips, existing media, or original art.

Generative NFTs are presented as a distinct medium enabled by blockchain-based ‘title’ for digital outputs.

Kevin Rose explains generative NFT art as algorithms with randomness introduced at mint time, producing unique outputs (he uses Art Blocks “squiggles” as an example); he argues curation layers may help people sift quality from noise.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

If I sit down next to a healthy person and we both eat the exact same carbohydrate, if we're wearing a continuous glucose monitor, I will spike higher and the glucose will stay elevated in my blood longer than most people.

— Kevin Rose

It’s just incredible how fragile the infrastructure around us actually is.

— Tim Ferriss

My biggest regrets in all of investing are actually the times that I sold prematurely.

— Tim Ferriss

Honestly, Tim, if I’m being really truthful, it was because I was really depressed.

— Kevin Rose

The further you get in, the more you realize nobody fucking knows what’s going on.

— Tim Ferriss

Read the available transcript
Ozempic dosing and nauseaContinuous glucose monitors (old vs new)Strength training, climbing, rucking, and mobilityPilates for back pain and stabilizersNFTs, celebrity projects, and charity framingGenerative art and Art Blocks ‘squiggles’Crypto investing behavior: DCA, sizing, holding rules

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SPEAKERS

  • Tim Ferriss

    host

    Author and podcast host of The Tim Ferriss Show, known for interviewing top performers across business, health, and lifestyle design.

  • Kevin Rose

    guest

    Technology entrepreneur and investor, host of the Modern Finance podcast, known for work in crypto/NFTs and media projects like Digg Nation.

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