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Tim FerrissTim Ferriss

How to Get Unstuck, Do “The Work,” Take Radical Responsibility, and Reduce Drama in Your Life

Brought to you by Wealthfront automated investing http://Wealthfront.com/Tim Show notes: https://tim.blog/2021/10/06/diana-chapman/ Diana Chapman is a co-founder of the Conscious Leadership Group and a co-author of the book The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership. Her passion is to help organizational leaders and their teams eliminate drama in the workplace and beyond. She has worked with more than 1,000 CEOs and is a well-respected facilitator for the Young Presidents Organization (YPO), working with their forums and chapters worldwide. She has been a speaker at TEDx, Mindful Leadership Summit, Wisdom 2.0, Stanford Graduate School of Business, and more. When Diana is not with her clients, she can often be found gardening at her suburban homestead in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. She lives there with her husband of over 30 years. Please enjoy! Intro [00:00] From scrapbooking stay-at-home mom to someone who inspires billionaires [03:02] What is the Drama Triangle, and how might someone use it? [06:08] What is the whole-body yes (or no), and how can it serve us? [13:06] How to pay better attention to your whole-body yes (or no) [15:39] Muting the desire to celebrate as a way to protect against disappointment (and the antidote) [30:19] A “black belt in practicing candor” [35:57] Loving pressure and how to apply it [37:28] Guiding someone through introspection and Byron Katie’s “turnarounds” [44:49] Diana guides me through a turnaround. [45:33] An aside: A turnaround isn’t designed to invalidate the inspected belief (because parts of it might serve a purpose), but to identify and embrace alternatives. [53:50] The importance of introducing the somatic into the picture [55:24] Who is the witness, and how do they figure into this process? [1:00:59] Walking the line [1:02:55] What if you’re dysregulated? [1:07:14] Growing in marriage [1:08:48] Navigating marital decision points [1:17:05] The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership—examples [1:19:48] The Mind Jogger app and how to use it with the commitments [1:23:46] Assessing self-awareness in a hiring interview [1:26:28] Books most gifted [1:28:44] Where to find Diana and parting thoughts [1:30:29] This episode is brought to you by Wealthfront! Wealthfront pioneered the automated investing movement, sometimes referred to as ‘robo-advising,’ and they currently oversee $20 billion of assets for their clients. It takes about three minutes to sign up, and then Wealthfront will build you a globally diversified portfolio of ETFs based on your risk appetite and manage it for you at an incredibly low cost. Smart investing should not feel like a rollercoaster ride. Let the professionals do the work for you. Go to Wealthfront.com/Tim and open a Wealthfront account today, and you’ll get your first $5,000 managed for free, for life. Wealthfront will automate your investments for the long term. Get started today at https://Wealthfront.com/Tim SUBSCRIBE: http://bit.ly/1dSzTkW LINK TO ALL SHOW TRANSCRIPTS: https://tim.blog/2018/09/20/all-transcripts-from-the-tim-ferriss-show/ About Tim Ferriss: Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 700 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Connect with Tim Ferriss: Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Visit the Tim Ferriss PODCAST: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss BLOG: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/tferriss/ Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/ Like Tim Ferriss on FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/

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Oct 6, 20211h 34mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Diana Chapman on Drama, Body Intelligence, and Radical Responsibility

  1. Diana Chapman explains the Drama Triangle of victim, villain, and hero as the pattern behind reactivity, and describes how a week of training with Gay and Kathlyn Hendricks started her path to teaching ways out of it.
  2. She leads Tim through a guided body-mapping exercise for a whole-body yes, a clear no, and a subtle no, and suggests practicing it first on low-stakes choices like menus, routes, and meeting times.
  3. Using Byron Katie's The Work on Tim's fear that depressive episodes are dangerous, she shows how turnarounds, evidence gathered in the body, and holding both sides as equally true can reduce panic without denying risk.
  4. She describes how she and her husband Matt let their marriage go several times and rebuilt it by asking who she needed to be to call forward the partner she wanted.
  5. She outlines the commitments of conscious leadership, daily check-in practices like the Mind Jogger app, and self-awareness interview questions, and closes by urging people to face the cost of drama and get curious about what else is possible.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Radical responsibility is not self-blame

Diana says taking 100% responsibility means owning your own part in co-creating a situation while recognizing that others have a part too; absorbing everyone's responsibility is villain behavior.

Anything other than a whole-body yes is a no

Diana says subtle nos are easy to override with the intellect, as she did on a sales call, so it helps to map how yes, no, and subtle no each feel in the body. Tim noticed different breathing, tension, and fidgety energy across the three.

Your yes can be the absence of no sensations

When Tim said he lacks a big zing for yes, Diana told him that his whole-body yes can simply be the absence of the head, chest, or gut tension he feels with a no.

The belief creates the anxiety, not just the situation

In working through Tim's belief that a depressive episode is dangerous, Diana says the panic comes from believing the story rather than from the state itself. The aim is to hold both the belief and its opposite as true, not to dismiss real risk.

Regulate the body before using cognitive tools

Diana warns that doing The Work while highly dysregulated can turn it into an intellectual weapon, so she recommends breath and movement first to calm blood and brain chemistry.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The thing you're complaining about is often the thing you're committed to creating, and if you can own that, that's radical.

— Diana Chapman

We say anything other than a whole-body yes is a no.

— Diana Chapman

The danger you're creating is in your own head by believing you're right about your story.

— Diana Chapman

I tend to say let's exaggerate everything 'cause that's one of the easiest, quickest forms of play is exaggerate where you're at.

— Diana Chapman

One of the things I most hope people will do is have the courage to face the cost of the drama that we are creating in our workplaces, feel that, let their hearts break wide open, and then from that place, get curious and excited about what else could we create together.

— Diana Chapman

The Drama TriangleWhole-body yes and subtle noByron Katie's The Work and turnaroundsRadical responsibilityLoving pressure and candorMarriage and polaritiesThe commitments of conscious leadership

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