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Tyler Cowen on Rationality, COVID-19, Talismans, and Life on the Margins | The Tim Ferriss Show

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Mar 5, 20201h 45mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Tyler Cowen on meta-rationality, daily practice, COVID puzzles, and talismans

  1. Tyler Cowen frames his work less as “economics” and more as a philosophy of thinking, arguing that economics depends on deeper anthropology and social meaning.
  2. He defines meta-rationality as understanding your own knowledge limits and knowing when to defer to experts, and he describes techniques for staying balanced amid emotionally charged information environments like COVID-19.
  3. Cowen describes “practice” for writers and thinkers as daily, high-volume work (including unpublished writing), exposure to diverse viewpoints, and maintaining cognitive openness through fiction and complex music.
  4. He argues modern society has become more risk-averse and credential-focused, and he highlights research he attributes to Steve Levitt suggesting that making major life changes more often can improve happiness on average.
  5. Cowen explains his motivations for Emergent Ventures as an alternative to bureaucratic philanthropy, emphasizing simplicity, speed, and backing talent without heavy reliance on formal measurement.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Economics is “embedded” in anthropology and broader social context.

He explains that outside simple contexts (like the law of demand), you have to ask how people interpret prices, threats, and communication—questions that depend on culture and social meaning, not just incentives.

Meta-rationality is rare and mostly about calibrated deference.

He defines meta-rationality as knowing how informed you are in a domain and when to defer to expertise; he argues people are usually overconfident and don’t defer when they should.

For COVID-19, use social media as a truth tool—but balance involvement with detachment.

He suggests building a high-quality Twitter feed, using Twitter Search to sample beyond who you follow, and staying suspicious of narrative-driven moods (panic vs. “it’s all fine”), since smart people can be better at justifying their emotions.

High performance requires deliberate, daily “practice,” not just public output.

He describes “scales” as daily practice: writing large amounts (including unpublished work), writing out opposing viewpoints, talking to diverse people, listening to complex music, and reading serious fiction to stay open to human complexity.

Consistency beats inspiration in writing: write every day and protect momentum.

He says the biggest enemy is a day with nothing written; he writes daily (including holidays), quits before he’s tired to stay eager, and treats email replies as part of his writing and relationship-building.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I don't think of myself as doing economics. I think of myself as doing a funny kind of philosophy with the economy as the topic.

— Tyler Cowen

Chess is not forgiving of excuses, right? It cultivates what I now call meta-rationality, and you can't lie about how well you're doing, not, not in the medium term.

— Tyler Cowen

Dominant moods or emotions tend to seize hold of us, even if we're very smart. And often smart people go wrong because they're just better at feeding more information into their chosen mood.

— Tyler Cowen

It is daily in an, an almost religious manner. I write on Christmas Day. I write on Sundays.

— Tyler Cowen

My view is if I need to measure, you failed, right?

— Tyler Cowen

Read the available transcript
Economics versus philosophy of thinkingAnthropology, culture, and incentivesMeta-rationality and deference to expertiseCOVID-19 information parsing and Twitter SearchDaily writing routine and momentumDeliberate practice for thinkers and writersComplex music and serious fiction as cognitive training (Shakespeare, Joyce, Indian classical)

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SPEAKERS

  • Tim Ferriss

    host

    Podcaster and author who hosts The Tim Ferriss Show.

  • Tyler Cowen

    guest

    Economist and writer behind Marginal Revolution and host of Conversations with Tyler.

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