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NYC SESSIONS: Elon’s Flying Cars and Sneaking Into Titanic ft. Devin Delliquanti

Is it possible Thanos was actually the good guy? Trevor, Eugene, and Devin sit down for a hilarious and unpredictable conversation that tackles everything from the physics of Elon Musk’s flying cars to the true meaning of the Avengers franchise. Trevor pitches his most controversial idea yet: legally mandating robust storylines in all adult films to save humanity's attention spans. The crew also unpacks the hidden dopamine cycle of theme parks, exploring why buying a fast pass to skip the line actually destroys the psychological thrill of the roller coaster and how that demand for instant gratification is changing the way kids experience video games. Plus, Devin shares the unbelievable true story of his parents surviving a fiery 1982 plane crash, sparking a massive debate on why society easily swears off airplanes and motorcycles, but will never stop driving cars. Subscribe for more conversations from What Now? with Trevor Noah: http://bit.ly/SubscribeTrevorNoah Or follow the podcast on your other favorite platforms... SiriusXM Apple Podcasts - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnApplePodcasts Spotify - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnSpotify 0:00 - Intro - Was Thanos Actually the Good Guy? 2:15 - Making Up Fake Traditions to Mess with Guests 10:15 - How South Africa Remixed Its National Anthem 14:50 - Tesla, Elon Musk & Why Tech Demos Lie 38:30 - Devin's Dad Survived Lightning AND a Plane Crash 39:00 - Sponsored Break (Google Pixel, Verizon) 41:25 - Devin's Parents Survived a Plane Crash in Spain 56:45 - Sneaking Into Movies in South Africa 1:04:15 - The Debate: Should Porn Have Storylines? 1:10:50 - Why the Theme Park Skip Pass Ruined the Fun 1:17:00 - The Avengers Are the Democrats (Perfect Allegory) 1:22:40 - Watching Marvel Movies with Kids 1:31:30 - Full Debate: Thanos Was Right 1:46:25 - Outro & Thank You #TrevorNoah #WhatNow #Thanos #Avengers #ElonMusk #Marvel #DevinDelliquanti

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  1. 0:00 – 2:15

    Intro - Was Thanos Actually the Good Guy?

    1. DD

      [upbeat music] But I don't think that makes Thanos the good guy. I think that could be like the Avengers are-

    2. TN

      So-

    3. DD

      ... bad or morally complicated or whatever-

    4. TN

      So why isn't he-

    5. DD

      ... because you're not using him, but-

    6. TN

      Why isn't he morally complicated? Why is he the bad guy? Yeah.

    7. DD

      Well, because he kill, I mean, to quote Dr. Banner, "Killed trillions."

    8. TN

      He didn't, he didn't kill. He didn't kill. He disappeared them.

    9. DD

      No, killed. Come on.

    10. TN

      They're not there anymore.

    11. DD

      Come on, dude. Come on.

    12. TN

      They're not, they're just not there. They're not there anymore. They're not there.

    13. DD

      [laughs] Killed. That, what does that mean?

    14. TN

      There's a difference between killing and disappearing. Devin, they're not there anymore.

    15. DD

      What does that mean?

    16. TN

      He, he didn't massacre them. He didn't have a private jet. He didn't have a fighter jet.

    17. DD

      But the effect is the same.

    18. TN

      He didn't drop a bomb. No, he just- No, no, no, no, no. That's like saying condoms are responsible for mass murder.

    19. DD

      [laughs]

    20. TN

      The effect is the same. Oh, my friend is back. [laughs] The effect is the same. Ah, there we go.

    21. DD

      I feel like you've used that line before.

    22. TN

      No.

    23. DD

      Like, "Oh, what I'm gonna-

    24. TN

      But it, that was just-

    25. DD

      ... I'm gonna be a mass murderer?"

    26. TN

      Did you not see- [laughs] ... he went quicker than his eye blink.

    27. DD

      I've never heard that.

    28. TN

      That was just finished.

    29. DD

      I've never seen Titanic fully, in, in mission.

    30. TN

      Oh, you haven't either?

  2. 2:15 – 10:15

    Making Up Fake Traditions to Mess with Guests

    1. TN

      With Trevor Noah. [upbeat music] I always think of doing things when you meet a new person in a group as well. You can do that just for fun.

    2. DD

      Yeah. Just, like-

    3. TN

      Like what?

    4. DD

      ... throw them off.

    5. TN

      So let's say you invite somebody over to your house. Yeah. They've never been there. Mm. But they know you, but they don't know your home. And then you and your family can act like you have a tradition that you don't have. [laughs] So you can just be like, you can just be like, "Before we eat the food, let us say why we are thankful that it exists." And then the next pers- person can just be like, "I like that I can eat." [laughs] And then the other person can be like, "I like that it makes me healthy." And the other person can jump in and be like, "It's good for my bones." Then like, "You, next." Yeah. And then you give it to them, and then they'll be like, "I'm grateful to be here." [laughs]

    6. DD

      Just make it up?

    7. TN

      Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Most people won't go, "Nah, bro." I would. You would? Yeah. Yeah, you- Just to see what happens next. You probably, you probably would.

    8. DD

      What is this?

    9. TN

      Yeah. Yeah, I'd be like, "Ah, guys, come on. Are we being for real?"

    10. DD

      Yeah.

    11. TN

      Then till someone says, "Yeah." You don't think you'd join in? You would join in.

    12. DD

      I would probably join in.

    13. TN

      Yeah, you'd probably join in.

    14. DD

      I would try to figure something out.

    15. TN

      You're a nice guy.

    16. DD

      Well, at, I was at Thanksgiving, 'cause we alternate Thanksgivings with my, like, my family and my wife's family or whatever.

    17. TN

      Yeah.

    18. DD

      And one year they just did the Pledge of Allegiance before Thanksgiving. [laughs]

    19. TN

      [laughs]

    20. DD

      Which is not a thing you do on Thanksgiving. But it's like one of the kids had just, like, learned it in school, so it's like, I guess we're doing the Pledge. So I'm standing up like, "Do I have to put my hand on my heart?" Like-

    21. TN

      And you did it

    22. DD

      ... I don't know what the rules are. I don't even know. I was like at a baseball. I'm like-

    23. TN

      [laughs]

    24. DD

      ... do I have to just... Like, I don't know what the rules are. [laughs]

    25. TN

      You take off your hat for the- [laughs]

    26. DD

      Well, I couldn't wear, I was, thank- I wasn't wearing a hat, 'cause Thanksgiving dinner, but I was just like, "Okay, I guess I pledge allegiance-"

    27. TN

      Yeah, you see-

    28. DD

      "... to the flag." [laughs]

    29. TN

      Yeah, there you go.

    30. DD

      But you're like, I, you ha- like, I can't sit during the Pledge at Thanksgiving dinner. [laughs]

  3. 10:15 – 14:50

    How South Africa Remixed Its National Anthem

    1. TN

      Africa.

    2. DD

      [laughs]

    3. TN

      You can tell we couldn't bridge the anthems, 'cause we, we, when we were making the, when we had, when we achieved democracy-

    4. DD

      Mm-hmm. Yes

    5. TN

      ... they were like, "What's the national anthem gonna be?" And then we-

    6. DD

      We need a, we need a song.

    7. TN

      Yeah. People were like-

    8. DD

      We need a, we need a bop. Yeah

    9. TN

      ... people were like, "Get rid of the old one-"

    10. DD

      Mm-hmm

    11. TN

      ... "because it's racist," or it comes with a racist nation and connotation. And then Mandela was like, "No, no, no, no, no, we can't get rid of the whole old national anthem because then it makes Afrikaans people feel like they're not part of this country when they are, and this is... So we're trying to meld these worlds together." So they're like, "We need a combined anthem."

    12. DD

      Mm-hmm.

    13. TN

      "So we're gonna take a little bit of old anthem, some new anthem, and put in some other... So make a mega, mega anthem."

    14. DD

      Sure. Get Timbaland on the phone. [laughs]

    15. TN

      Basically make...

    16. DD

      Yeah.

    17. TN

      Basically. And it was great.

    18. DD

      Yeah.

    19. TN

      But you can tell. The, the anthem moves really nicely.

    20. DD

      Yeah.

    21. TN

      But then there's a part where they try and mix the African part of the anthem-

    22. DD

      Yeah

    23. TN

      ... with the Anglo-

    24. DD

      Yeah

    25. TN

      ... and Boer part of it.

    26. DD

      The bridge.

    27. TN

      Like the white part with the African part.

    28. DD

      Yeah.

    29. TN

      You can tell they were in the studio for days with that part. 'Cause, okay, like, just here's the tune. The South African a- the, the, the African part of the anthem has like a, like a, a melody. It's very specific. So [singing] I'm not even gonna say the words, so you just understand.

    30. DD

      Okay.

  4. 14:50 – 38:30

    Tesla, Elon Musk & Why Tech Demos Lie

    1. TN

      the Tesla car?

    2. DD

      I knew you were gonna ask me about this. I saw it. What do I think? It... This is the kinda thing where I'm like, I'm reading a book right now about the, the, like, USAID and the Institute of Peace, so I'm like, I have that Elon in my head.

    3. TN

      Yeah.

    4. DD

      Of like, "Oh, th- he sent these, like, children to go into this building and, like, dismantle it." And them I'm like, "And then he just puts, like ch- like things under a car to make it fly." I'm like, "This is what you should be doing. This is your calling."

    5. TN

      [laughs]

    6. DD

      "To do things like this. You are not, like, the bureaucrat, like, nuts and bolts guy of like-"

    7. TN

      Leave the ch-

    8. DD

      "... I'm gonna do-"

    9. TN

      Leave AIDS alone.

    10. DD

      Yes.

    11. TN

      Leave Africa alone. Just f-

    12. DD

      With-

    13. TN

      Focus on flipping cars

    14. DD

      ... with rocket-

    15. TN

      Yeah.

    16. DD

      Flipping car. That's exactly the thing where I'm like, "Oh, all right." Because, yeah, I mean, it's, it's a fun video to watch no matter how you feel.

    17. TN

      If you... Yeah, I agr- Okay.

    18. DD

      It's a fun video to watch.

    19. TN

      Yeah. You see, I like that.

    20. DD

      Yes.

    21. TN

      Yeah. This is why I like you. Mm.

    22. DD

      This is a fun video to watch.

    23. TN

      Thank you.

    24. DD

      Because I'm always skeptical. I always come in, and I talk about this with Kabuka, is like, I, "What's your angle?" 'Cause when people are known to, like, lie about stuff or exaggerate, I'm like-

    25. TN

      Mm, mm, mm

    26. DD

      ... I'm always a little skeptical.

    27. TN

      I just-

    28. DD

      But I watch the video, I'm like, "This is g-

    29. TN

      Yes

    30. DD

      ... this is fun to watch, this video."

  5. 38:30 – 39:00

    Devin's Dad Survived Lightning AND a Plane Crash

    1. DD

      dad had his plane hit by lightning one time too.

    2. TN

      Ah, no, you-

    3. DD

      Before that

    4. TN

      ... no, no, you should have started with... You should have led with that, bruh.

    5. DD

      Yeah, no, before that.

    6. TN

      Ah, no, Devin.

    7. DD

      I wanted it, yeah. Switch it up.

    8. TN

      No, you, Devin, I see what Eugene means, bruh.

    9. DD

      No, no.

    10. TN

      No, my man, you should have led with that.

    11. DD

      Before. But no, I think, so-

    12. TN

      My man, I'm out here thinking your dad needs to get over his fears.

    13. DD

      No, no, no. He-

    14. TN

      Meanwhile, you, it looks like God is coming for your dad, brother.

    15. DD

      No, but, but like-

    16. TN

      It feels like Final Destination is trying to get your dad.

    17. DD

      But that's like, there's, but only plane God is his jurisdiction.

    18. TN

      Yeah.

    19. DD

      Not everywhere else is gonna-

    20. TN

      Yeah. Hey, man, meanwhile your dad was the opposite of D.B. Cooper.

  6. 39:00 – 41:25

    Sponsored Break (Google Pixel, Verizon)

    1. TN

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  7. 41:25 – 56:45

    Devin's Parents Survived a Plane Crash in Spain

    1. TN

      Did your-

    2. DD

      You approached it

    3. TN

      ... did your parents survive a plane crash?

    4. DD

      Yes.

    5. TN

      Oh, yeah, yeah.

    6. DD

      What?

    7. TN

      I remember that. I was like-

    8. DD

      You remember

    9. TN

      ... Eugene will find this fascinating.

    10. DD

      Why didn't you lead with that?

    11. TN

      What? In my head, do you know what I thought? In my head, I thought, "Ah, Eugene's probably gonna wonder why he d- doesn't start with that."

    12. DD

      What a-

    13. TN

      Yeah

    14. DD

      ... what a waste. How long? F- 20 minutes of... [laughs]

    15. TN

      [laughs]

    16. DD

      Guys, we could have-

    17. TN

      Yeah, they-

    18. DD

      ... led with that.

    19. TN

      What, what am I gonna g- "Hey, man, nice to meet you. Hey, can I tell you my parents, they, uh, yeah."

    20. DD

      Absolutely.

    21. TN

      Really?

    22. DD

      Yeah.

    23. TN

      First thi- first thing.

    24. DD

      If I survived Ebola, you think I wouldn't lead with that? [laughs]

    25. TN

      [laughs] Whoa. I mean, just, I would-

    26. DD

      Yeah. [laughs]

    27. TN

      Yeah.

    28. DD

      Would I not lead with that? [laughs]

    29. TN

      Hand sanitize first. Like, that's politeness. This is not like-

    30. DD

      You'd be more subtle.

  8. 56:45 – 1:04:15

    Sneaking Into Movies in South Africa

    1. TN

      the first time I went to watch The Matrix, go into the, the, the cinema, and I watch the movie. I'm like, "This is the greatest movie I've ever seen in my life."

    2. DD

      Yeah.

    3. TN

      I don't understand it, though.

    4. DD

      Yeah.

    5. TN

      I'm like, "Wait, what, what... I don't... I have to see it again. I don't have the money to just go see a m-movie again." So what I would do then is I would sneak into the movies, right? So the best way to sneak into the movies was to use people exiting a movie. You, you, and then you go into the movies. But now the problem is-

    6. DD

      Right, right. Yeah

    7. TN

      ... there's the, the time-

    8. EU

      In between, yeah

    9. TN

      ... between showings.

    10. EU

      What he said, there's, there's-

    11. DD

      Yeah

    12. TN

      ... people are cleaning the theater.

    13. DD

      They're clean- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    14. TN

      Yeah, so you can't just go wait for the-

    15. DD

      Right

    16. TN

      ... you can't be like, "No, I'm good. I'm gonna wait for Neo to come."

    17. DD

      Yeah. [laughs]

    18. TN

      No. There's none of that. They'll kick you out. So what I'd do is I'd wait for people to be leaving any movie, right? So then I'd wait for The Matrix to leave, and then I would go in with them, basically. I'd just be like, "Oh, I forgot something, my wallet-

    19. DD

      Yes

    20. TN

      ... or whatever." I'd run back in.

    21. DD

      Mm-hmm.

    22. TN

      And then when I'd come out, I'd just go into Titanic, 'cause Titanic was like three hours long.

    23. DD

      Okay.

    24. TN

      And then I would go sit in Titanic.

    25. EU

      Mm.

    26. DD

      Oh.

    27. TN

      And Titanic's last hour would get me through to the next showing of The Matrix.

    28. EU

      Yes, because you already passed the ticket check.

    29. DD

      Yeah.

    30. TN

      And then when Titan- when Titanic would leave, I would just go start The Matrix again.

  9. 1:04:15 – 1:10:50

    The Debate: Should Porn Have Storylines?

    1. SP

      you see, like, porn is legal, but I would say, like, no, y- all porn has to have a story. Really?

    2. EU

      Hey, Trevor, we don't have that much time.

    3. SP

      This is exactly my point.

    4. EU

      Hm?

    5. SP

      That, what you're just saying now.

    6. EU

      Yes, exactly.

    7. SP

      That is exactly why.

    8. EU

      Hey, my ex-husband. Hi. Hey, mama.

    9. SP

      Yes.

    10. EU

      Let's do.

    11. SP

      Exactly.

    12. EU

      Uh, uh. Hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    13. SP

      Exactly. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why.

    14. EU

      Uh-uh.

    15. SP

      I think that pornography as we think of it is as old as time. Do you get what I'm saying?

    16. EU

      Mm-hmm.

    17. SP

      It is just as changed-

    18. EU

      I mean, there's painting. Yeah, yeah.

    19. SP

      Yeah. There's painting-

    20. EU

      Statues

    21. SP

      ... statues, et cetera.

    22. EU

      No, no, no, no. Yeah.

    23. SP

      So it's as old as time. So I'm not gonna be one of those people who's like, "Ah, pornography, no." I mean, the human body, people, it's fine.

    24. EU

      Mm.

    25. SP

      Whatever. The issue I have now with porn is that it's too readily available-

    26. EU

      Mm-hmm

    27. SP

      ... and it removes the context of sex as a whole.

    28. EU

      Yeah.

    29. SP

      So what-

    30. EU

      It's strictly object.

  10. 1:10:50 – 1:17:00

    Why the Theme Park Skip Pass Ruined the Fun

    1. TN

      I love theme parks and roller coasters. Love them. Love them, loved them my whole life. America has some of the best, craziest theme parks you've ever been to. When I first got to California, my friend David Meyer was like, "Yo, let's go." Took me to a theme park, Six Flags. The wildest r- I mean, I came from a place where-

    2. SP

      Man to man

    3. TN

      ... we only had one roller coaster that did a loop.

    4. EU

      Oh, yes. Anaconda

    5. TN

      And it only did one loop. No, Anaconda was later on.

    6. EU

      Oh, at Gold Reef City?

    7. TN

      Y- yeah. There was the-

    8. EU

      Okay

    9. TN

      ... there was just the one that did a loop.

    10. EU

      Okay, okay.

    11. TN

      That was it.

    12. SP

      Okay.

    13. EU

      Okay.

    14. TN

      We had one loop in my entire existence.

    15. EU

      [laughs] Okay.

    16. TN

      And that was it.

    17. SP

      Okay.

    18. TN

      Okay? Came to a country where there were loops, plural-

    19. SP

      Yeah

    20. TN

      ... on multiple rides.

    21. SP

      Yes.

    22. TN

      I was in heaven.

    23. EU

      Mm.

    24. TN

      The only thing that got me was, man, I just... Uh, the lines. I was like, "I'm w- it's like a... You wait a, an hour and then you ride for like 40 seconds."

    25. EU

      Ooh.

    26. TN

      You wait an hour and you ride for like 40 seconds, and maybe a minute if you're lucky. 30 sec- 20... You're like, "How quick are these rides?" But you're waiting for an hour every single time. And all I dreamed of was I was like, "Man, I wish there was a way to skip the lines. I wish there was a way to skip the lines." Fast-forward a few years, I then discover a thing that you can buy at theme parks where they let you skip-

    27. SP

      The fast pass, the lightning lane. Yeah, yeah

    28. TN

      ... the line completely. You skip the line.

    29. EU

      Beautiful.

    30. TN

      Right? Skip the line, and then on, like, certain days, if you're a member as well, there's m- fewer people in the park as well.

  11. 1:17:00 – 1:22:40

    The Avengers Are the Democrats (Perfect Allegory)

    1. TN

      The Avengers is the perfect allegory for the Democrats in America.

    2. DD

      Yes.

    3. EU

      Tell me more.

    4. TN

      It is like the... If you, if you watch the movie and if you, like, look at, like, the Democrats in America, you go, this, to me, it almost seems like somebody did it on purpose. They went, "Let's make a story about people who like to see themselves as heroes, but when they have the power, don't actually do anything with it." Everybody has that oddly specific thing that they're curious about. Maybe it's restoring old watches. Maybe it's Japanese ceramic making. Maybe it's watching someone explain why one bridge in a remote area of Norway is secretly better than all the other bridges in the world. YouTube always has exactly what you're looking for, even when you didn't know you were looking for it. With YouTube Premium, those deep dives feel even smoother. You get ad-free viewing, but you also get background play when you need your hands free. And you get offline downloads so you can keep watching wherever you happen to be, even if you happen to be off the grid. It's everything you already love about YouTube, just somehow even better. Yeah, one of my favorite YouTube Premium features is smart downloads. Because how many times have you gone somewhere and realized, "Ugh, I forgot to download anything"? And now you're on the way to the airport and you're like, "Download, download, download, download." You're on the plane, "Download, download, download, download." There's no Wi-Fi. "I wish I downloaded." Now all of those things that you were gonna watch are, are just on the internet. Smart downloads basically thinks ahead for you. It automatically downloads recommended videos based on what you like to watch, so even when you forget to prepare, YouTube Premium didn't. I love it. It's like packing for a trip and discovering somebody already remembered the thing you always leave at home. It's always the underwear. If you like YouTube, you'll love YouTube Premium. Sign up now for your free trial at youtube.com/premium. Terms apply. Cancel anytime. [upbeat music] [laughs] Yo, by the way, have you watched Digger?

    5. DD

      Not yet.

    6. TN

      Hey, please go watch it.

    7. DD

      I want to. I will. I've heard people who have seen it are like, "You gotta see it." So, yeah.

    8. TN

      That's, that's all it needs.

    9. DD

      Okay. All right.

    10. TN

      [laughs]

    11. DD

      I've- I definitely wanna see it.

    12. TN

      I was saying to Eugene, I'm tired of movies that everyone walks out of being like, "That was great, wasn't it?"

    13. DD

      Yeah.

    14. TN

      We're all just, like, mindless minions. Mm. Like, "That was wonderful, wasn't it?" Mm. Boring.

    15. DD

      Yeah. I'm a Tom Cruise apolo- like, e- anything. Anything.

    16. TN

      Yeah, but Digger, let me tell you something now. I'll say, number one, if he's not nominated for an Oscar, then I don't understand what the Oscars are about.

    17. DD

      Really?

    18. TN

      Yeah. genuine. Never mind. Yeah. Win, I, I see win- True ... as always, like, a quirky thing. Yeah, yeah.

    19. DD

      See, because Magnolia for me, I was like, he really has it.

    20. TN

      Let me tell you something. Mm, he has. Mm.

    21. DD

      He has that-

    22. TN

      Definitely. You're not ready

    23. DD

      ... like, something depth of emo- For Digger?

    24. TN

      If he doesn't- You're right ... get nominated for Digger, then I don't understand what acting nominations are about.

    25. DD

      All right.

    26. TN

      Yeah.

    27. DD

      I'm excited.

    28. TN

      Okay? Yeah. That- that's for me. Secondly, the movie itself, you, you just... When was the last time you went to a movie where you genuinely did not know what was gonna happen? I love Spider-Man-

    29. DD

      Yeah

    30. TN

      ... as much as anybody else.

  12. 1:22:40 – 1:31:30

    Watching Marvel Movies with Kids

    1. DD

      then we watched, uh, we've done all of them. Loved Endgame. And then we saw Endgame in the theater.

    2. TN

      How?

    3. DD

      Because they re-released it. They did it once for-

    4. TN

      You kids of South Africa, how do you do this? [laughs]

    5. DD

      [laughs]

    6. TN

      You not kidding?

    7. DD

      Kids, you need to know. Come in the ha- the halfway point. What do you mean? They're dust.

    8. TN

      [laughs]

    9. DD

      What are you talking about? Yeah. [laughs] I'm so confused. Um, but no, so we did that, and then we've slowly been making our way through and trying to figure it out. But then we keep seeing these little leaks of, like, what it's gonna be like. 'Cause the kids are eight and five. I'm like, I don't wanna traumatize them forever-

    10. TN

      Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah

    11. DD

      ... if I don't know-

    12. TN

      No, you, you gotta know ahead of time

    13. DD

      ... what it's gonna be.

    14. TN

      Yeah.

    15. DD

      And we're not even telling them, like, who's playing Doctor Doom.

    16. TN

      No, you can't.

    17. DD

      And that almost was spoiled today for, for one of our kids, and we're just like, ar, like-

    18. TN

      Yeah, don't

    19. DD

      ... how do we, how do we keep it secret?

    20. TN

      Hm.

    21. DD

      So, but it's, it's fun.

    22. TN

      What was their favorite one so far?

    23. DD

      Uh, Guardians of the Galaxy 1 is great. They love all the Spider-Man movies.

    24. TN

      I can see Guardians being good for kids, actually.

    25. DD

      It's very fun with the music.

    26. TN

      It's very, like, goofy and, uh-

    27. DD

      And Endgame is fun, 'cause it's kind of like you go through it all, and, like, there are jokes in it. So they like that. Um-

    28. TN

      Wait, Endgame is the first one or the second one?

    29. DD

      Endgame is the second one.

    30. TN

      Okay. Okay.

  13. 1:31:30 – 1:46:25

    Full Debate: Thanos Was Right

    1. TN

      okay, okay, okay, I don't wanna lose this fight," now you release them?

    2. DD

      This is, this is fair.

    3. EU

      And you still get fucked up.

    4. TN

      Thank you.

    5. DD

      But so then, but I don't think that makes Thanos the good guy. I think that could be, like, the Avengers are-

    6. TN

      So-

    7. DD

      ... bad or morally complicated or whatever it is.

    8. TN

      So why isn't he-

    9. DD

      We're not using the-

    10. TN

      Why isn't he morally complicated? Why is he the bad guy?

    11. EU

      Yeah.

    12. DD

      Well, because he kill... I mean, to quote Dr. Banner, killed trillions.

    13. TN

      He didn't, he didn't kill.

    14. EU

      He didn't kill. He disappeared them.

    15. DD

      No, killed. Come on.

    16. EU

      They're not there anymore.

    17. DD

      Killed them, come on.

    18. TN

      They're not, they're just not there.

    19. EU

      They're not there anymore.

    20. TN

      They're not there.

    21. DD

      [laughs] Killed them. What does that mean?

    22. TN

      There's a difference between killing and disappearing.

    23. EU

      Devin, they're not there anymore.

    24. DD

      What does that mean?

    25. EU

      He di- he didn't massacre them. He didn't have a private jet. He didn't have a fighter jet.

    26. DD

      But the effect is the same.

    27. EU

      He didn't drop a bomb.

    28. TN

      No.

    29. EU

      No, he just-

    30. TN

      No, no, no. No, no. That's like saying condoms are responsible for mass murder.

  14. 1:46:25 – 1:46:50

    Outro & Thank You

    1. TN

      you didn't enjoy it, pass it on to your friend still. Let them suffer for a change. And don't forget to engage with us in the comments. Uh, if you wanna, uh, suggest a guest, maybe there's questions you want, maybe there's ideas that you have, you can chat to us. We will read through the comments, and we'll get into it. Either way, I appreciate you taking the time. Thank you for hanging out with us on What Now? And remember, we do this for you, so we would like to hear from you. Till next time. Thank you.

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