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Wringing in the New Year | What Now? with Trevor Noah Podcast

In this week’s episode I’m back home in South Africa. My good friends Anele Mdoda and Sizwe Dhlomo and I have a spirited conversation about the big issues that worry us as we hurtle into 2025.

Trevor NoahhostAnele MdodaguestSizwe Dhlomoguest
Jan 30, 20251h 17mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Trevor, Anele and Sizwe Trade New Year Worries and Hopes

  1. Anele Mdoda worries that her 10-year-old son is starting to look outside the home for role models, and she describes how she tries to keep him confident and respectful while still holding firm discipline.
  2. Trevor Noah argues that the global experiment of connected trade and open borders is failing, because money pooled upward, scarcity is partly artificial, and online connection is straining societies.
  3. Sizwe Dhlomo takes a more clinical view, saying capital always supersedes other factors of production and that civilizations and economies deteriorate and reset in cycles, which leaves Trevor wary of the tone.
  4. The friends debate whether kids raised on social media are tougher or more fragile than earlier generations, with Trevor arguing the problems are the same in a new form and that real physical community has been lost.
  5. The conversation ends on a gentler note, with Trevor suggesting that humans are pulled apart and then forced back together, and Anele saying parents must stay optimistic while still being hard at times.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Friends can say things strangers cannot

Trevor describes friendship as the cooking apparatus for working things out, and Anele and Sizwe add that friends are where you can test thoughts before airing them publicly.

Anele wants her son confident enough to resist bad influences

After her son's holiday encounter with a boy who pushed boundaries, Anele says her job is to build unshakable self-esteem so he remembers how he was raised.

Kids asking why can be a sign of conviction, not defiance

Trevor relays his youngest brother's explanation that asking why is how he learns to believe in his actions rather than follow rules by rote, which leads Trevor to say boundary-pushing may be how new things get made.

Modeling respect is how Anele teaches privacy

Anele knocks on her son's door because she wants him to learn that everyone must respect his privacy, and she treats him the way she wants the world to treat him.

Trevor says the promised prosperity for all did not arrive

He argues that money dammed up in certain places, companies hire and fire to chase profit, and much scarcity is artificial, while Sizwe says the real problem is distribution and that capital always pulls back to capital.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Somebody who's wrong can't be wrong all the time, and somebody who's right can't be right all the time.

— Anele Mdoda

I basically treat him the way I want the world to treat him so that he can know.

— Anele Mdoda

Maybe life is a constant yo-yo of humans being pulled apart and then being pulled back together.

— Trevor Noah

What we didn't know was some people have boats that have water pumps, and they're taking a lot more water, and the tides are not rising everything.

— Trevor Noah

If you were made by social media, you feel like you can be destroyed by social media.

— Sizwe Dhlomo

Read the available transcript
Friendship as a space for candid conversationCanceling and inner versus outer thoughtsParenting a pre-teen and external influencesRespect, privacy and questioning rulesFailing globalization and economic inequalitySocial media, bullying and real community

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SPEAKERS

  • Trevor Noah

    host

    Comedian, writer, and former host of The Daily Show who hosts the podcast "What Now? with Trevor Noah".

  • Anele Mdoda

    guest

    South African radio and television presenter and media personality.

  • Sizwe Dhlomo

    guest

    South African media personality and radio host known for commentary and analysis.

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