How a Meta PM ships products without ever writing code | Zevi Arnovitz

You are a product manager shipping product without knowing how to write code, barely knowing how to review code.

I have zero technical background. Did music in high school when Sonnet 3.5 came out. I remember watching a YouTube video building apps using Bolt or Lovable. It basically felt like someone came up to me and said, "You have superpowers now."

These days, you're using Cursor with Claude Code.

If you're non-technical like me, code is terrifying, but AI just makes so much possible. In the next coming years, I think everyone's gonna become a builder. Titles are gonna collapse, and responsibilities are gonna collapse.

The main challenge people have is reviewing the code that AI has written.

It's very difficult for me to catch mistakes. What I'll do is basically slash review. This tells Claude to start reviewing its own code, but what's even cooler is I have Codex as well as Cursor open. I will have each of them review the code.

This comes back to this quote I think everyone's always hearing: "It's not that you will be replaced by AI. You'll be replaced by someone who's better at using AI than you."

It's the best time to be a junior, contrary to what a lot of people are saying, how there's no more junior roles out there. Yeah, that's true, but also, when else in history could you get out of school and just build a startup on your own?

[upbeat music] Today, my guest is Zevi Arnovitz. Zevi's a PM at Meta. Prior to that, he was a PM at Wix, and this is a truly remarkable conversation that every non-technical product person needs to hear. Zevi is super young and has no technical background, but as a smart, young, ambitious person, has learned how to use Cursor and Claude Code to build significant and real products completely on his own, and he's created his own very clever and effective workflow that everyone listening can copy. To make that copying even easier, at the top of the show notes of this episode, you can download all of the prompts and slash commands and start doing all of this yourself. Zevi shows you how to work with Cursor to quickly add your ideas to Linear, to explore your idea with AI, how to develop your plan, how to then build the thing, and then have different LLMs review your code and update your documentation, and then use all of this as a learning opportunity to develop your own sense of how things work. I haven't stopped thinking about this conversation since we had it, and everyone needs to pay attention to what AI is unlocking for non-technical people. A huge thank you to Tal Raviv for encouraging me to meet Zevi. If you enjoy this podcast, don't forget to subscribe and follow it in your favorite podcasting app or YouTube. It helps tremendously. And if you become an annual subscriber of my newsletter, you get 19 premium products for free for an entire year, including Lovable, Replit, Bolt, Gamma, n8n, Linear, Devon, PostHog, Superhuman, Descript, Wispr Flow, Perplexity, Warp, Granola, Magic Pattern, Drake House, ChatPR, dmobbin, and Stripe Atlas. Head on over to lennysnewsletter.com and click Product Pass. With that, I bring you Zevi Arnovitz after a short word from our sponsors. This episode is brought to you by 10Web, the company that pioneered AI website building before ChatGPT. In the last three years, over two million websites have been generated with 10Web's vibe coding platform. 10Web's vibe coding platform is a powerful way to build websites. Think of it as Lovable for WordPress, front-end and back-end. Users can build any website at any complexity: e-commerce, portfolios, information websites, blogs, and it comes with a WordPress admin panel and thousands of ready-to-use plugins. 10Web also offers website generation as an API as a service for SaaS companies, marketplaces, hosting providers, MSPs, and agencies. SaaS companies can embed it via API, so that users can launch AI-generated sites directly inside of their platform, connected to their own data. Agencies and MSPs can get a white label dashboard to manage clients and resell under their brand. Hosting providers can self-host the API builder on their own infrastructure. Check it out at 10web.io/lenny, and use code LENNY for exclusive free credits and 30% off API or white label solutions. That's the number 10W-E-B.io/lenny. Vibe coding platform as an API. Today's episode is brought to you by DX, the developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers. To thrive in the AI era, organizations need to adapt quickly, but many organization leaders struggle to answer pressing questions like: Which tools are working? How are they being used? What's actually driving value? DX provides the data and insights that leaders need to navigate this shift. With DX, companies like Dropbox, Booking.com, Adyen, and Intercom get a deep understanding of how AI is providing value to their developers and what impact AI is having on engineering productivity. To learn more, visit DX's website at getdx.com/lenny. That's getdx.com/lenny. [upbeat music] Zevi, thank you so much for being here, and welcome to the podcast.