Lessons from Atlassian | Megan Cook (Head of Product, Jira)
Megan Cook (guest), Lenny Rachitsky (host)
In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, featuring Megan Cook and Lenny Rachitsky, Lessons from Atlassian | Megan Cook (Head of Product, Jira) explores how Atlassian Builds Products, Trust, And Teams That Consistently Win Megan Cook, Head of Product for Jira, breaks down how Atlassian scales products, culture, and processes across 15 product lines while staying customer-obsessed and innovative.
How Atlassian Builds Products, Trust, And Teams That Consistently Win
Megan Cook, Head of Product for Jira, breaks down how Atlassian scales products, culture, and processes across 15 product lines while staying customer-obsessed and innovative.
She explains concrete practices for psychological safety and play (peer feedback groups, offsites, ‘Fight Club’), operating as a fully remote org (Team Anywhere, deep work, async updates, Loom-style videos), and getting executive buy‑in.
Megan shares how she championed unsexy but critical work like CSAT and usability, Atlassian’s gated innovation model for new products like Jira Product Discovery, and how the company continually adapts to market shifts.
She closes with personal lessons on thinking bigger about features, learning from failure, and intentionally designing more joy into both work and life.
Key Takeaways
Deliberately design psychological safety through structured peer feedback and shared vulnerability.
Megan uses small peer feedback groups, twice‑yearly PM onsites, and leaders sharing failure stories to normalize rough work, early feedback, and the idea that big swings and mistakes are acceptable and valuable.
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Make conflict a ritual to prevent resentment and misalignment.
Her weekly 30‑minute ‘Fight Club’ with design and engineering leads is a dedicated space for hard conversations, ensuring tensions are addressed early, decisions move faster, and relationships stay strong.
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Remote teams need intentional rhythms of connection, deep work, and async communication.
Atlassian mixes 3–4 in‑person gatherings per year with synchronized deep work blocks, strict avoidance of status meetings, rich documentation (Confluence, Atlas), and heavy use of async audio/video to handle time zones.
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Treat buy‑in as a journey, not a single high‑stakes meeting.
Successful proposals start with early 1:1 conversations, clearly separated facts vs. ...
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You can win resources for unsexy work by tying it to revenue and making it easy for others to help.
For CSAT and usability, Megan combined rich qualitative feedback with clear business impact (on acquisition and expansion), then designed low‑cost collaboration (dependency teams provide ‘shepherds’ instead of full dev capacity).
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New products should start tiny, gated, and protected from big‑company process.
Atlassian’s Wonder → Explore → Make → Impact → Scale model lets ideas (like Jira Product Discovery) prove demand with minimal teams, customer co‑development, and different quality bars before graduating into full-scale businesses.
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Always ask if a successful feature could be a broader platform capability.
Megan’s regret about shipping automation as a Jira‑only workflow feature (later acquired as a separate company-wide capability) drives her current habit of asking, “How could this be 10x bigger or apply across products?”
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Notable Quotes
“The opposite of play isn’t work; the opposite of play is fear.”
— Megan Cook
“We’re really firm believers that you don’t need to be in the office to build world‑class products.”
— Megan Cook
“Most of the time when people come to me for buy‑in, they’re planning one perfect meeting—and that’s the wrong attitude. It’s more of a journey.”
— Megan Cook
“If the customer isn’t satisfied or the usability isn’t there, they can’t access the value anyway—it doesn’t matter what features you ship.”
— Megan Cook
“I missed a really big opportunity. We built automation into Jira, but I should have realized it could have been a service for every product.”
— Megan Cook
Questions Answered in This Episode
How could you adapt Megan’s peer feedback groups or ‘Fight Club’ concept to your own team to surface conflict and feedback earlier?
Megan Cook, Head of Product for Jira, breaks down how Atlassian scales products, culture, and processes across 15 product lines while staying customer-obsessed and innovative.
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What parts of your remote workflow are still treated like in‑office habits, and how might deep work blocks, async status, or recordings improve them?
She explains concrete practices for psychological safety and play (peer feedback groups, offsites, ‘Fight Club’), operating as a fully remote org (Team Anywhere, deep work, async updates, Loom-style videos), and getting executive buy‑in.
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Which ‘unsexy’ but high‑impact problems (like usability or CSAT) are you currently ignoring, and how could you frame them in business terms to secure investment?
Megan shares how she championed unsexy but critical work like CSAT and usability, Atlassian’s gated innovation model for new products like Jira Product Discovery, and how the company continually adapts to market shifts.
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If you applied Atlassian’s Wonder → Explore → Make → Impact → Scale gates, which of your current ideas would actually merit more resources—and which should be killed?
She closes with personal lessons on thinking bigger about features, learning from failure, and intentionally designing more joy into both work and life.
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Where in your product are you treating something as a narrow feature that could instead be a reusable platform capability, similar to Atlassian’s automation story?
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Transcript Preview
What we've put into place is something we call Fight Club. I'll probably get in trouble for talking about Fight Club. The first rule is you don't talk about Fight Club. But it's, uh, 30 minutes every week and it's just for myself, my engineering, and my design leader. And we get together and we know that we're going in there to have a conflict. I think often when there's difficult conversations or those conflicts come up, you can put them off until they become much bigger or if somebody is conflict adverse they can try to avoid having it at all. But by having, you know, like a specific sort of time in your week for something like that, then you're sort of in that mindset, you know you're going in there to solve a hard problem, you know that there's going to be a disagreement and it makes it much better. And I think the relationship we all have is so much better because we get on top of these things early.
(instrumental music) Today my guest is Megan Cook. Megan is head of product for Jira which is used by 75% of Fortune 500 companies, 125,000 customers globally, is by far the most popular project management tool in the world. Megan has been at Atlassian for just under 11 years. Prior to Atlassian, Megan was an analyst, a developer, and an Agile coach. In our conversation, we discuss what Atlassian has done so right in being able to offer 15 different product lines which many companies dream of, how they continue to stay ahead of the market in spite of the many competitors in the space, why Megan considers play so essential to building great teams and great products, a bunch of tactical advice for getting buy-in for your ideas, tips for being a successful PM in a remote environment, also great story failure, and so much more including surfing tips. With that, I bring you Megan Cook after a short word from our sponsors. This time of year is prime for career reflection and setting goals for professional growth. I always like to spend this time reflecting on what I accomplished the previous year, what I hope to accomplish the next year, and whether this is the year I look for a new opportunity. That's where today's sponsor, Teal, comes in. Teal provides you with the tools to run an amazing job search with an AI-powered resume builder, job tracker, cover letter generator, and Chrome extension that integrates with over 40 job boards. Teal is the all-in-one platform you need to run a more streamlined and efficient job search and stand out in this competitive market. There's a reason nearly one million people have trusted Teal to run their job search. If you're thinking of making a change in the New Year, leverage Teal to grow your career on your own terms. Get started for free at Tealhq.com/Lenny. That's Tealhq.com/Lenny. Let me tell you about a product called Sprig. Next-gen product teams like Figma and Notion rely on Sprig to build products that people love. Sprig is an AI-powered platform that enables you to collect relevant product experience insights from the right users so you can make product decisions quickly and confidently. Here's how it works. It all starts with Sprig's precise targeting which allows you to trigger in-app studies based on users' characteristics and actions taken in product. Then Sprig's AI is layered on top of all studies to instantly surface your product's biggest learnings. Sprig's surveys enables you to target specific users to get relevant and timely feedback. Sprig Replays enables you to capture targeted session clips to see your product experience firsthand. Sprig's AI is a game-changer for product teams. They're the only platform with product-level AI, meaning it analyzes data across all of your studies to centralize the most important product opportunities, trends, and correlations in one real-time feed. Visit Sprig.com/Lenny to learn more and get 10% off. That's S-P-R-I-G.com/Lenny. Megan, thank you so much for being here and welcome to the podcast.
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