Overcome imposter syndrome and accelerate your career | Julie Zhuo (Sundial, Facebook)

I think about product and feedback as, as kind of just, you know, the more the better, right? Again, everyone, especially with design, like, has an opinion to some degree, right? And so all opinions are valid because they are a true opinion. The question is how do you then prioritize? How do you figure out what it is that you should do? Because it isn't successful to try and, you know, do things by consensus. You're never gonna get a group of people, uh, smart people to agree about what is absolutely the best design.

(instrumental music) Welcome to our very first episode with Julie Zhu. Julie spent 13 years at Facebook, where she was the head of design for the Facebook app. She actually joined as an IC designer and worked her way up to VP of design. She's also an incredible writer, having written the bestselling book, The Making of a Manager. She's also the author of a newsletter called Looking Glass, which was a huge inspiration to me throughout my entire career. Since leaving Meta, she started her own company called Sundial, which you'll hear a bit about. And in our chat, we cover career advice, imposter syndrome, product review meetings, hiring designers, giving feedback to designers, and so much more. I hope you enjoy this chat as much as I did. This episode is brought to you by Amplitude, the number one product analytics solution. Amplitude helps product teams, growth teams, marketing and data teams build winning products faster and turn products into revenue. Amplitude has everything you need, including an integrated CDP, self-service analytics, and even an experimentation platform to help you better understand your users, drive conversions, and increase engagement, growth, and revenue. Amplitude is built for teams that wanna learn as fast as they ship and ship as fast as they learn. Ditch your vanity metrics, trust your data, work smarter, and grow your business. With over 1,700 customers like Atlassian, Instacart, and HBO, Amplitude is helping companies build better products. Try Amplitude for free. Visit amplitude.com to get started. This episode is brought to you by Productboard. Product leaders trust Productboard to help their teams build products that matter. From startups to industry titans, over 6,000 companies rely on Productboard to get the right products to market faster, including companies like Zoom, Volkswagen, UiPath, and Vanguard. Productboard can help you create a scalable, transparent, and standardized process so your PMs understand what their customers really need and then prioritize the right features to build next. Stakeholders feel the love too with an easy-to-view roadmap that automatically updates, so everyone knows what you're building and why. Make data-driven product decisions that result in higher revenue and user adoption and empower your product teams to create delightful customer experiences. Visit productboard.com to learn more. Julie, I am so excited to be chatting. You've been such an inspiration to me, both in my PM career and in my writing. I think I mentioned that your newsletter inspired my newsletter, and so I'm really excited to be chatting, and I'm really thankful that you're joining me on this podcast.