
The ultimate guide to PR | Emilie Gerber (founder of Six Eastern)
Emilie Gerber (guest), Lenny Rachitsky (host)
In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, featuring Emilie Gerber and Lenny Rachitsky, The ultimate guide to PR | Emilie Gerber (founder of Six Eastern) explores startup PR, Demystified: Tactical Playbook from Six Eastern’s Emilie Gerber Emilie Gerber, founder of PR agency Six Eastern, breaks down highly tactical, step‑by‑step advice for startups on how to get and leverage press. She reframes PR’s value for B2B as second‑order effects—credibility, sales enablement, recruiting, and partnerships—rather than direct sign‑ups, and explains when PR *does* directly drive growth for consumer products.
Startup PR, Demystified: Tactical Playbook from Six Eastern’s Emilie Gerber
Emilie Gerber, founder of PR agency Six Eastern, breaks down highly tactical, step‑by‑step advice for startups on how to get and leverage press. She reframes PR’s value for B2B as second‑order effects—credibility, sales enablement, recruiting, and partnerships—rather than direct sign‑ups, and explains when PR *does* directly drive growth for consumer products.
She maps out which publications to target for which types of stories, how to craft concise, compelling pitches, and how to reach reporters via email, DMs, and social. Gerber also contrasts good and bad messaging, shows how to position against incumbents instead of “creating categories,” and shares concrete examples of successful pitches and campaign structures.
Beyond traditional media, she covers podcasts, newsletters, social media, and awards as critical channels, including how to discover and approach them. The episode closes with guidance on when and how to hire a PR agency, what it costs, and what to expect from those engagements.
Key Takeaways
For B2B, PR’s main value is credibility and leverage—not immediate sign‑ups.
Press logos, third‑party validation, and in‑depth articles become powerful tools in sales decks, outbound emails, fundraising, and recruiting. ...
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Match the story to the right publication and format.
TechCrunch is ideal for funding and some product news; Axios is highly deals‑ and sector‑focused (fintech, healthcare); Business Insider loves pitch‑deck breakdowns and entrepreneurial metrics; VentureBeat is strong for AI; Fast Company for future‑of‑work, design, and leadership op‑eds; Forbes for lists and contributor pieces. ...
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Keep pitches brutally concise, direct, and pattern‑matching to what reporters already cover.
Great email/DM pitches are often three sentences: who you are, what the news is, why it matters (with a concrete hook), and a clear ask (e. ...
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Anchor your story to incumbents instead of claiming to “create a category.”
Positioning as “a better X than Salesforce/Bill. ...
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Use founders’ and execs’ personal stories and contrarian views as PR assets.
When the product seems dry or niche, lean into founder journeys, mission‑driven angles, or sharp, non‑obvious opinions on industry trends (e. ...
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Treat podcasts, newsletters, and awards as core parts of your PR mix.
Systematically search for vertical podcasts and newsletters your buyers actually consume, qualify them (guest type, recency, quality), and start outreach with lightweight, human messages like “Are you open to guest ideas? ...
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Press releases are rarely necessary for startups; use blog posts instead.
Wire services are expensive, little‑read, and encourage jargon‑heavy writing. ...
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When hiring PR help, optimize for fit, speed, and writing quality—not logo‑studded resumes.
Big legacy agencies often run slow, reactive playbooks built for household brands. ...
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Notable Quotes
“No one ever gets this tactical in PR. At the end of the day, if you are a startup that wants to get coverage, you need to know actually the steps to take to do it.”
— Emilie Gerber
“A lot of founders automatically think, ‘I raised money so TechCrunch will cover this.’ The reality is TechCrunch wrote nine funding stories in a week and there were about 50 funding rounds.”
— Emilie Gerber
“I’m of the belief that [warm relationships] do not matter as much as many people think. Cold outreach done well is just as effective.”
— Emilie Gerber
“Most companies want to position themselves as category creators, and I actually hate that—for PR. It doesn’t work, and most of the time it’s not totally true.”
— Emilie Gerber
“Press releases came about because reporters checked newswires for story ideas. No reporters do that anymore.”
— Emilie Gerber
Questions Answered in This Episode
Given my specific product and audience, which 3–5 publications and 3–5 podcasts/newsletters would be the highest‑leverage targets, and why?
Emilie Gerber, founder of PR agency Six Eastern, breaks down highly tactical, step‑by‑step advice for startups on how to get and leverage press. ...
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How can I reframe my current “category‑creating” narrative into a clear, incumbent‑anchored story that a reporter would instantly understand?
She maps out which publications to target for which types of stories, how to craft concise, compelling pitches, and how to reach reporters via email, DMs, and social. ...
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What concrete contrarian or under‑told angle about my market or customers could realistically make my founder or product a go‑to source for reporters?
Beyond traditional media, she covers podcasts, newsletters, social media, and awards as critical channels, including how to discover and approach them. ...
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If I had to write a three‑sentence pitch email for my next launch, what exactly should each sentence say?
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At our current stage and budget, should we run PR ourselves with this playbook, or is it time to bring on an agency or consultant—and what would a six‑week engagement look like in detail?
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No one ever gets this tactical in PR. (laughs) There's just so much theoretical, you know, conversation and examining the big blunders. But like at the end of the day, if you are a startup that wants to get coverage for your company, you need to know like actually the steps to take to do it.
You mentioned a bunch of amazing companies you've worked with, Ramp, Perplexity. Most products don't have as interesting of a story to tell. How do you help find something that is a nugget?
You can get so in the weeds with your own messaging that you want to set up this massive problem statement, you want to make it a huge trend story. But if you're like very straightforward and you're like pattern-matching, it's generally actually going to work.
So I asked you to bring some examples of pitches that are great and also examples of pitches that could be better.
I want to read one to you and then I want to see if you can tell me what this company does. (laughs)
(laughs) . Deal. Today my guest is Emily Gerber. Emily is the founder and CEO of 6Eastern, a PR agency that has worked with over 100 tech companies from stealth startups to publicly traded companies, helping them get press, build awareness, and level up their PR and comms strategy. Before starting her own firm, she worked at Uber where she led PR for the business development team and B2B programs. Prior to that, she worked at Box on product communications, with a focus on product launches and partnership announcements. In our conversation, Emily shares so many golden nuggets of advice on how to get press that I lost count. We talk about which publications to target depending on your market and story, how to craft your pitch in your outreach to reporters, how to actually reach reporters, and also how to craft your product story for people to pay attention to what you're doing, why warm introductions to reporters are actually that important, how to find podcasts and newsletters to pitch that might be even more effective than traditional media, how much it would cost you to work with a PR agency instead of doing it yourself and how much lead time you need if you do that. Also, we go through a few real-life examples of press and outreach, both good examples and bad examples and what we can learn from those. Also, we look at a pitch that Emily sent to me about a podcast guest that is a client of hers that worked and this guest is coming out in the future, so we look at what was effective about that pitch, and so much more. If you enjoy this podcast, don't forget to subscribe and follow on your favorite podcasting app or YouTube. It's the best way to avoid missing future episodes and it helps the podcast tremendously. With that, I bring you Emily Gerber after a short word from our sponsors. Let me tell you about a product called Sprig. Next gen product teams like Figma and Notion rely on Sprig to build products that people love. Sprig is an AI-powered platform that enables you to collect relevant product experience insights from the right users so you can make product decisions quickly and confidently. Here's how it works. It all starts with Sprig's precise targeting which allows you to trigger in-app studies based on users' characteristics and actions taken in product. Then Sprig's AI is layered on top of all studies to instantly surface your product's biggest learnings. Sprig Surveys enables you to target specific users to get relevant and timely feedback. Sprig Replays enables you to capture targeted session clips to see your product experience firsthand. Sprig's AI is a game-changer for product teams. They're the only platform with product-level AI, meaning it analyzes data across all of your studies to centralize the most important product opportunities, trends, and correlations in one real-time feed. Visit sprig.com/lenny to learn more and get 10% off. That's S-P-R-I-G.com/lenny. This episode is brought to you by Eppo. Eppo is a next generation A/B testing and feature management platform built by alums of Airbnb and Snowflake for modern growth teams. Companies like Twitch, Miro, ClickUp, and DraftKings rely on Eppo to power their experiments. Experimentation is increasingly essential for driving growth and for understanding the performance of new features, and Eppo helps you increase experimentation velocity while unlocking rigorous deep analysis in a way that no other commercial tool does. When I was at Airbnb, one of the things that I loved most was our experimentation platform where I could set up experiments easily, troubleshoot issues, and analyze performance all on my own. Eppo does all that and more with advanced statistical methods that can help you shave weeks off experiment time, an accessible UI for diving deeper into performance, and out-of-the-box reporting that helps you avoid annoying prolonged analytics cycles. Eppo also makes it easy for you to share experiment insights with your team, sparking new ideas for the A/B testing flywheel. Eppo powers experimentation across every use case including product, growth, machine learning, monetization, and email marketing. Check out Eppo at geteppo.com/lenny and 10X your experiment velocity. That's geteppo.com/lenny. Emily, thank you so much for being here and welcome to the podcast.
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