Annihilating The Culture - Ryan Long | Modern Wisdom Podcast 345

Annihilating The Culture - Ryan Long | Modern Wisdom Podcast 345

Modern WisdomJul 12, 20211h 12m

Ryan Long (guest), Chris Williamson (host), Narrator

Modern identity labels, demisexuality, and victimhood cultureOnlyFans, porn, and distorted expectations in male–female relationshipsCowboy lifestyles, mental resilience, and who can handle alternative pathsCrypto, blockchain evangelism, and Ponzi-like hype dynamicsInfluencer excess, Dan Bilzerian, White Claw, Juul, and trend cyclesMedia manipulation, culture-war grifting, and audience capture in comedyCreative process, long-term body of work, and managing focus/productivity

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Ryan Long and Chris Williamson, Annihilating The Culture - Ryan Long | Modern Wisdom Podcast 345 explores comedian Ryan Long Skewers Modern Culture, Clout-Chasing, and Comedy Politics Chris Williamson and comedian Ryan Long riff on modern identity culture, sexuality labels, OnlyFans, and the way internet clout reshapes expectations in dating and work. They explore how “cowboy lifestyles” like sex work, touring comedy, and fame aren’t meant to be normalized for everyone, and why some people can’t psychologically handle them. The conversation then shifts to crypto hype, John McAfee, Dan Bilzerian–style influencer excess, and how brands and media weaponize trends and outrage. Throughout, Long dissects audience capture, culture-war grifting, and his own principles for creating comedy that lasts rather than just feeding algorithms or partisan applause.

Comedian Ryan Long Skewers Modern Culture, Clout-Chasing, and Comedy Politics

Chris Williamson and comedian Ryan Long riff on modern identity culture, sexuality labels, OnlyFans, and the way internet clout reshapes expectations in dating and work. They explore how “cowboy lifestyles” like sex work, touring comedy, and fame aren’t meant to be normalized for everyone, and why some people can’t psychologically handle them. The conversation then shifts to crypto hype, John McAfee, Dan Bilzerian–style influencer excess, and how brands and media weaponize trends and outrage. Throughout, Long dissects audience capture, culture-war grifting, and his own principles for creating comedy that lasts rather than just feeding algorithms or partisan applause.

Key Takeaways

Not every quirk needs to be an identity or orientation.

Long mocks labels like ‘demisexual’ as ultra-low-bar “in-club” identities that change nothing in behavior but confer victim or special status, diluting what marginalization actually means.

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Cowboy lifestyles demand resilience; they shouldn’t be normalized for everyone.

Whether it’s touring comedy, being a rapper, or doing OnlyFans, he argues these are high-variance, psychologically taxing paths that some personalities can handle—but weaker or less stable people get crushed, then blame society instead of misfit.

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Sex and money at scale deform how you see the opposite sex.

High-status men drowning in casual sex come to see women as disposable and scheming, while OnlyFans and simps inflate some women’s expectations of men and money, warping trust on both sides.

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Crypto evangelism is often financial self-interest dressed as moral crusade.

Long notes that many ‘decentralization’ advocates mainly care about price appreciation but wrap their pitch in humanitarian language so people feel they’re buying into a future, not a Ponzi-like scheme.

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Media and political pundits routinely weaponize real issues into partisan grifts.

He argues that both left and right take genuine concerns (censorship, racism, Trump, cancel culture) and over-use them for clicks, diluting serious problems while keeping their audiences outraged but unchanged.

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Audience capture is a constant temptation; resisting it requires taking short-term hits.

Long consciously pushes back against becoming the ‘darling’ of any side, sometimes making content that annoys his own fans, to avoid pandering, clapter, and being boxed into a political brand.

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To create a lasting body of work, optimize for timeless quality, not trends.

He structures his career around being proud of his stand-up, sketches, and specials decades from now, even if that means slower growth, avoiding hacky topics, or rejecting algorithm-friendly formats like meme-bar videos.

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Notable Quotes

If you're gonna get out there with your dissonant opinions in a band, you better not be the backup washboard player.

Ryan Long

Some people can handle a cowboy lifestyle, but when the ones who can’t try it, they say, ‘Society needs to change to make this easier,’ instead of, ‘I wasn’t suited for that.’

Ryan Long

You need to play the game, but the game’s there to help you get what you want—not to become the point.

Chris Williamson

Edgy comedy shouldn’t be a left-wing or right-wing thing. I don’t want to be part of turning it into a partisan brand.

Ryan Long

Writing stand-up is harder than anything else because you’re mining for pure gold—one magical home run line—while everything else is just being consistently good.

Ryan Long

Questions Answered in This Episode

How should we decide which identities genuinely warrant social recognition versus which are just attention-seeking labels?

Chris Williamson and comedian Ryan Long riff on modern identity culture, sexuality labels, OnlyFans, and the way internet clout reshapes expectations in dating and work. ...

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What safeguards or norms could help people better assess whether they’re psychologically suited to ‘cowboy’ lifestyles like OnlyFans or constant touring?

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Is there an ethical way to evangelize crypto or other speculative tech without sliding into Ponzi-like hype and self-deception?

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How can comedians and creators practically resist audience capture while still making a living in an algorithm-driven ecosystem?

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What criteria should a creator use to distinguish between chasing a fleeting trend and building an “evergreen” body of work they’ll be proud of in 20 years?

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Transcript Preview

Ryan Long

What about a parade for dudes that bust quick? Like, that- that's what-

Chris Williamson

(laughs) The premature parade.

Ryan Long

I got... Yeah, yeah. The premature parade.

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Ryan Long

And, like, I identify, that's my orientation, where girls are like-

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Ryan Long

... "Why's your busting so quick?" And you're like, "Wow. That is... You're gonna shame my identity like that." (wind blowing)

Chris Williamson

Ryan Long, welcome to the show.

Ryan Long

We're here. Yeah, yeah. I, I thought we were recording. I was, I was trashing everybody in the industry. I was fucking, I was getting into it, dude. (laughs)

Chris Williamson

You're in full flow already. Yeah, you're right. Trending headline right now, big headline, Andrew Cuomo's daughter has come out as demisexual. Did you see this?

Ryan Long

Yeah, she's hot too. Did you see her?

Chris Williamson

Yeah, it's weird.

Ryan Long

Yeah, yeah. Um, uh, demisexual is, like, the, that's the epitome of, like, I want in the club. And you go, "I don't know if I'm..." You know, "Are you gay?" No. And you go, demisexual is the, the funniest one, like-

Chris Williamson

You change nothing.

Ryan Long

... where you're like, "Yo, I'm interesting."

Chris Williamson

You change nothing at all.

Ryan Long

You change nothing. Yo, you go, "I'm, I'm attracted to, like, people's personalities or something." (laughs)

Chris Williamson

(laughs) So, for the people that don't know, it's like, uh, they only feel sexually attracted to someone when there's an emotional bond. Like, how that qualifies as an orientation.

Ryan Long

Yeah, honestly, I feel so... Uh, you know, I'm just, uh, I'm sad that she had to go through that. And, um, you know, coming out of the closet, that's hard for people. You know what I mean? When you come out and you go, "Listen, I am attracted to people who I like their personalities." (laughs) And everyone's like, "Oh, my God." Like-

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Ryan Long

... "Your life has been so hard."

Chris Williamson

Shocking.

Ryan Long

"Take, they should make a separate parade for you. They need a, they need a demi bri- a de- demi pride parade." (laughs) Do you know what was making me laugh? The idea of... Do you know how there was an article saying that they have, they're going to have kink in the, like, whether they should have kink for ki- like, in the pride parade? You know, like, the guys' ball. I wanna go, I, I wanna do a street thing where asking people if, like, wearing the leather and stuff, saying that, uh, we're trying to campaign to get kink at the Thanksgiving Day parade. So... (laughs)

Chris Williamson

(laughs) You got the turkeys all dressed up in leather.

Ryan Long

(laughs) Yeah, yeah, yeah. We think that that's the only reason to go. But the demi parade, they need their own parade. That's, um, it's a tough affliction.

Chris Williamson

Well, it says everything now, right? That, like, demisexual is, is, like, the biggest counterculture that you could have. Like, that you actually have to take a little bit of time before you get involved in some sort of sexual explicitness.

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