Are Women In Charge Of The Dating Market? - Jon Birger

Are Women In Charge Of The Dating Market? - Jon Birger

Modern WisdomMar 17, 20221h 20m

Jon Birger (guest), Chris Williamson (host)

College gender gap and its impact on the post‑college dating marketSex-ratio theory: how local male–female imbalances shift behavior and normsEffects of MeToo and Gen Z risk-aversion on approaching and flirtingLimitations and downsides of online dating for both safety and relationship qualityWomen making the first move and the “suitor’s advantage” in matching theoryAge dynamics, hypergamy, and women’s dating timing (20s vs 30s)Assortative mating, educational status, and expanding to “mixed‑collar” relationships

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Jon Birger and Chris Williamson, Are Women In Charge Of The Dating Market? - Jon Birger explores how Sex Ratios, Apps, And MeToo Reshaped Modern Dating Power Dynamics Chris Williamson interviews author Jon Birger about how demographic shifts—especially the college gender gap—have tilted the dating market in favor of men and made it harder for women seeking long‑term partners.

How Sex Ratios, Apps, And MeToo Reshaped Modern Dating Power Dynamics

Chris Williamson interviews author Jon Birger about how demographic shifts—especially the college gender gap—have tilted the dating market in favor of men and made it harder for women seeking long‑term partners.

Birger explains sex-ratio theory, showing how imbalances in men and women change sexual norms, campus cultures, and even crime rates, and argues that online dating amplifies superficial criteria and harms relationship stability.

He makes the case that women can gain a strategic edge by making the first move, dating beyond strict educational boundaries, avoiding over-reliance on apps, and considering younger or non-degreed men.

Both discuss how MeToo has increased male fear of approaching, why subtle flirting often fails, and why meeting through work, friends, or community leads to more durable relationships than dating apps.

Key Takeaways

The college gender gap structurally disadvantages educated women in dating.

In most Western countries, about one‑third more women than men graduate from university, so post‑college dating pools skew female. ...

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Sex ratios don’t just change odds; they reshape sexual culture and norms.

Where women are plentiful and men scarce (e. ...

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Online dating incentivizes ‘shopping’ behavior and weakens relationship outcomes.

Apps push users to filter on blunt metrics (height, income, education), encouraging consumerist thinking and ignoring deeper traits like humor or character. ...

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Women who initiate gain a measurable matching advantage.

Drawing on Nobel Prize–winning matching theory, whoever initiates the match tends to secure a higher‑ranked partner on average. ...

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MeToo and social anxiety have made traditional ‘playing hard to get’ counterproductive.

Men, especially younger ones, increasingly fear being labeled creepy or predatory, so indifference is read as a firm ‘no,’ not a flirty test. ...

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Delaying serious dating into the 30s is riskier for women than for men.

Because of both sex ratios and typical age preferences, educated men’s options broaden with age, while educated women’s relative pool shrinks—like a game of musical chairs with fewer chairs over time. ...

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Relaxing educational and status filters can dramatically expand women’s options.

Birger argues many high‑quality men are in trades or ‘mixed‑collar’ roles—plumbers, electricians, small business owners—who may earn well and be excellent partners but get filtered out by a rigid ‘must be a college grad’ mindset, especially on apps.

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Notable Quotes

Making the first move is the only dating strategy ever to be awarded the Nobel Prize.

Jon Birger

Men used to worry about being rejected. Now they’re worried about being labeled a predator.

Brian Howey (quoted by Jon Birger)

If a woman comes across as indifferent, men will take that as a sign that she’s not interested and will move on.

Francesca Hogi (quoted by Jon Birger)

It’s getting to a point that if the woman doesn’t make the first move, the men are not going to.

Francesca Hogi (quoted by Jon Birger)

The stories of how we meet are important. You’re much more likely to fall in love with somebody you already know from the real world than with a complete stranger from an app.

Jon Birger

Questions Answered in This Episode

If sex ratios and assortative mating are so powerful, what realistic policies—or cultural shifts—could rebalance opportunities for both sexes without heavy-handed social engineering?

Chris Williamson interviews author Jon Birger about how demographic shifts—especially the college gender gap—have tilted the dating market in favor of men and made it harder for women seeking long‑term partners.

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How can men and women navigate the post-MeToo environment in a way that preserves safety and respect while still allowing confident, non-awkward romantic pursuit?

Birger explains sex-ratio theory, showing how imbalances in men and women change sexual norms, campus cultures, and even crime rates, and argues that online dating amplifies superficial criteria and harms relationship stability.

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Given the data on higher breakup and divorce rates for couples who meet on apps, what would an online dating platform designed to mimic ‘meeting in the wild’ actually look like?

He makes the case that women can gain a strategic edge by making the first move, dating beyond strict educational boundaries, avoiding over-reliance on apps, and considering younger or non-degreed men.

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To what extent can individual women genuinely override hypergamous preferences (age, income, education) once they move off apps and interact with men in real-world settings?

Both discuss how MeToo has increased male fear of approaching, why subtle flirting often fails, and why meeting through work, friends, or community leads to more durable relationships than dating apps.

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How should young adults think about timing—balancing career building and partner search—if they want both economic success and a stable long-term relationship?

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Transcript Preview

Jon Birger

A woman met a guy who's five foot nine at a party and brilliant and funny and handsome. She's not gonna notice that he's five foot nine. But when it comes down to putting a number on a screening function on a dating app, people start treating dating like shopping. (air whooshing)

Chris Williamson

John Berger, welcome to the show.

Jon Birger

Chris, thanks for having me on the podcast.

Chris Williamson

Talk to me about how you ended up as an authority on the dating market.

Jon Birger

Well, authority may be a bit strong, but- but yeah, th- this is the first question I typically get, which is basically, how the heck did a- a business journalist, a writer for Fortune Magazine ever end up writing a book about dating? And the answer is basically the ... It actually has a lot to do with- with my years at Fortune Magazine. The editorial staff at Fortune was more women than men, but it was one of these things where I couldn't help but notice that most of the men at Fortune were either married, like myself, or involved in long-term relationships. Whereas the women, especially the ones I seemed to know best and I was friends with, they were disproportionately single. And they weren't just single, they had all these dating horror stories and dating histories that- that made no sense to me. Especially since, from my perspective, a lot of them seemed to have way more going for them dating-wise than we guys did. Um, so the- the origin of my first book, Dateanomics, was basically just trying to explain how we got to a world in which dating had become so much easier for men than for women.

Chris Williamson

What was the summary of what you found out during that research?

Jon Birger

So initially, I thought this had something to do with the job markets in- in these really cosmopolitan cities like New York or London or Toronto, LA. Like I thought there was something about the- the industries, the job markets in these cities that was drawing more women, particularly college-educated women, um, to these cities than- than men. And that was- that was my premise for Dateanomics, but it turns out I was wrong. That this is not a- a big city versus small town problem. This is an everywhere issue. So basically, in every Western country and in many non-Western countries as well, over the past 20, 30 years, we've had about one-third more women than men graduate from college or graduate from- from uni as you may call it, you know, overseas (laughs) . Um, uh, and as a result, you end up with a dating pool after college that has, you know, one-third more women than men. And obviously, this wouldn't matter at all if we were more open-minded about whom we date and eventually marry, but at the same time that- that- that this higher education gender imbalance has been- become wider and wider, there's been a- a simultaneous increase in what academics refer to as assortative mating, which is just a fancy way of saying that university grads tend to want to date and marry other university grads.

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