The $2M Plan To Age In Reverse - Bryan Johnson

My body's aging extremely slowly. I have 50 biomarkers, the things you would normally expect like cholesterol and triglycerides and things like that, that are in the perfect optimal clinical outcome range. I have 100 biomarkers that are less than my chronological age. Several fitness tests where I test out at, as an elite 18 year old. My body runs three degrees Fahrenheit cooler than normal. So, no matter how you're looking at it, whether it's my DNA methylation, my fitness test, my biomarkers, my phenotypic markers, whatever you're looking at, the data says the same thing. I'm in near perfect health. (jet engine roars)

Brian Johnson, welcome to the show.

Thank you for having me.

Do you fear death?

No. I love life.

Is there a distinction between those two?

I- I do not have a ... I- I know what fear feels like, and I don't experience that emotion when contemplating death.

I spent a good bit of time looking at the longevity, uh, Subreddit many, many years ago when David Sinclair first came on the scene. And, um, one of the things that I kind of realized, or I thought I might have realized, was it seemed like a little bit of a rehabilitated denial of death, in a way.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, it seems like there are certain elements of the longevity community that, that do see that. Uh, but based on what I've looked at from what you're doing, it seems like a very enjoyable, fun experiment where you're trying to-

(laughs)

... see how far you can push your body. But I'm trying to work out, you know, is there, deeper down in the recesses, is there something ... Is there a denial of death? Is there a fear from, from what's coming in the future driving you at all?

My, my main source of inspiration is having read hundreds of biographies. I love learning about people in their time and place that were able to work on impossibly hard things. So talent is the ability to hit the target no one else can. Genius hits the target no one else can see. And the majority of us in life, we play the games that society gives us, so that's hitting the target. So currently, you know, it's social media followers and, you know, this and that. Uh, so people like to play games where points can be kept and you can be compared to people and ranked. Uh, genius is a different game. It's trying to find things that don't exist. And you need to have the stamina and fortitude to go out and pave your own path and do things that are not recognized, appreciated, or valued even in your lifetime. And so to me that ... Reading biographies is about people who do that, is they really try to survey all of existence. They are somehow immune to their time and place, and are able to see these things. That's really ... So in my- in my understanding of my reality, I seek to be like those people.