How Pornhub Became The Internet’s Biggest Crime Scene - Laila Mickelwait

How Pornhub Became The Internet’s Biggest Crime Scene - Laila Mickelwait

Modern WisdomJun 19, 20251h 14m

Chris Williamson (host), Laila Mickelwait (guest)

Pornhub’s upload system, lack of ID/consent checks, and resulting criminal contentCorporate structure and history of Pornhub, MindGeek/Manwin/Alo, and their financiersThe Trafficking Hub movement, petition, and global advocacy campaignLegal actions, internal document revelations, and loss of Section 230 protectionsRole of credit card companies and financial institutions as leverage pointsPolicy solutions: age and consent verification, child protection, and deterrenceBroader ecosystem issues: subscription sites, AI/deepfake porn, and youth exposure

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Chris Williamson and Laila Mickelwait, How Pornhub Became The Internet’s Biggest Crime Scene - Laila Mickelwait explores inside Pornhub: Unmasking Online Sexual Crimes And Corporate Complicity Worldwide Laila Mickelwait explains how Pornhub’s user-generated model and lack of ID/consent verification turned it into a platform saturated with sexual crimes, including child abuse, rape, trafficking, and image-based sexual abuse. She details the corporate history behind Pornhub’s parent company, its rebrandings, and the intentional policy choices that prioritized profit over safety while ignoring victims and legal obligations. Mickelwait recounts launching the Trafficking Hub movement, mobilizing public pressure, litigation, and credit card companies to force Pornhub to delete 91% of its content and begin age/consent verification. She argues that shutting Pornhub down, securing reparations, and criminal prosecutions are crucial for justice, deterrence, and driving systemic reforms in online porn and tech platforms.

Inside Pornhub: Unmasking Online Sexual Crimes And Corporate Complicity Worldwide

Laila Mickelwait explains how Pornhub’s user-generated model and lack of ID/consent verification turned it into a platform saturated with sexual crimes, including child abuse, rape, trafficking, and image-based sexual abuse. She details the corporate history behind Pornhub’s parent company, its rebrandings, and the intentional policy choices that prioritized profit over safety while ignoring victims and legal obligations. Mickelwait recounts launching the Trafficking Hub movement, mobilizing public pressure, litigation, and credit card companies to force Pornhub to delete 91% of its content and begin age/consent verification. She argues that shutting Pornhub down, securing reparations, and criminal prosecutions are crucial for justice, deterrence, and driving systemic reforms in online porn and tech platforms.

Key Takeaways

User-generated porn without strict ID and consent checks invites systemic criminal abuse.

Pornhub allowed uploads from anyone with an email in under 10 minutes, with no age or consent verification, enabling widespread hosting and monetization of child sexual abuse, rape, trafficking, and stolen content.

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Corporate structures and rebranding can be used to evade accountability.

Pornhub’s ownership shifted through entities like Mansef, Manwin, MindGeek, and now Alo, with recurring legal troubles (money laundering, tax evasion, trafficking charges) while many of the same executives and practices persisted.

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Financial pressure is one of the most effective tools against abusive platforms.

Targeting Visa, Mastercard, and other payment processors—rather than only Pornhub directly—forced the platform to delete over 50 million videos (about 91% of its content), revealing how dependent such sites are on mainstream financial rails.

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Weak moderation at massive scale virtually guarantees harmful content slips through.

Pornhub had about 10 moderators per shift in Cyprus reviewing up to 2,000 videos each per eight-hour shift, often with sound off, and one person handling over 700,000 flagged videos—making real screening for age, consent, or abuse impossible.

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Deterrence through high-cost consequences can change industry behavior.

As lawsuits, media exposés, and financial cutoffs hit Pornhub, competitors began preemptively tightening their own policies, showing that credible threats of litigation, fines, and criminal exposure reshape corporate risk–benefit calculations.

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Age and consent verification for every person in every video is a scalable safeguard.

Mickelwait advocates mandatory, third-party biometric and ID-based verification (e. ...

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Victims suffer lifelong trauma from the ‘immortalization’ of abuse online.

Survivors describe their recorded assaults circulating indefinitely with download buttons, forcing them into endless ‘whack-a-mole’ efforts to remove content and driving extreme distress, with about 50% reporting suicidal ideation.

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Notable Quotes

Pornhub is not a porn site, it's a crime scene.

Laila Mickelwait

My abuser put me in a mental prison, but Pornhub gave me a life sentence.

Anonymous survivor quoted by Laila Mickelwait

They were so popular… people were wearing their apparel proudly in public, and people had no idea that this was going on behind the scenes.

Laila Mickelwait

How in the world are Pornhub's executives not in prison?

Laila Mickelwait

We need mandatory third‑party age and consent verification for every person in every video on every website that allows user‑generated porn.

Laila Mickelwait

Questions Answered in This Episode

Where should the legal line be drawn between platform liability and user responsibility for criminal content online?

Laila Mickelwait explains how Pornhub’s user-generated model and lack of ID/consent verification turned it into a platform saturated with sexual crimes, including child abuse, rape, trafficking, and image-based sexual abuse. ...

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How can policymakers balance strong age/consent verification with privacy and data security for both users and performers?

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What role should major financial institutions ethically play in policing online platforms beyond what the law currently requires?

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How might AI-generated porn and deepfakes force a rethinking of consent, likeness rights, and existing child protection laws?

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What practical steps can parents and educators take to counteract the impact of early, unfiltered exposure to violent or exploitative porn on children?

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Transcript Preview

Chris Williamson

Pornhub is not a porn site, it's a crime scene. What's that mean?

Laila Mickelwait

It means exactly what you just said. So, what I discovered, uh, about five years ago was what millions of people already knew, in that all it took to upload to the world's YouTube of porn, so this is user-generated porn, uh, the biggest porn site in the world at the time. Actually, it was the fifth most trafficked website in the world at the time. I made this discovery that all it took to upload to Pornhub was an email address that anybody, in under 10 minutes, could upload to the site, and they were not verifying ID to make sure that these were not children, and they were not verifying consent to make sure that these are not rape or trafficking victims. And because of that, the site had actually become infested with videos of real sexual crime. So, we're talking about child abuse, child sexual abuse material, we call it, this is child rape. It's also self-generated child sexual abuse material where children would be, you know, filming themselves and sharing it, and then that would get uploaded to Pornhub, which is completely illegal to be viewing and distributing that content. Um, to adult rape, you know, unconscious women, completely drunk, non-consenting, to, all the way to what we used to call revenge porn. So this would be image-based sexual abuse. So all kinds of non-consensual content, and even copyright, uh, you know, violations, where this is illegal content because it was stolen material that was being uploaded to the site. So, that was the state of Pornhub, and, you know, they had, at the time, they had 6.9 million videos that were uploaded, uh, in 2019, and this was, you know ... My fight to hold them accountable for these crimes started in 2020. And at that time, they had 56 million pieces of content uploaded to the site, and they had actually, uh, 170 million visitors per day, 62 billion visitors per year, and enough content being uploaded that it would take 169 years to watch if you put those videos back to back. So that's how much content was being uploaded. And mind you, this is now anybody with an iPhone. So anybody, anywhere in the world that had a camera could film a sex act and with no checks whatsoever, using a VPN even, to be even more anonymous. They could upload this content to Pornhub and it was infested with videos of crime.

Chris Williamson

Why was this your job to find? This seems like ... 62 billion visits per year, one of those 62 billion visits could have sprung somebody else into action. W- why was this you?

Laila Mickelwait

I mean, this is one of the things that really kind of amazes me even now, is that this was something that was h- hiding in plain sight. So, this was under everybody's noses. Like, really anybody could have sounded the alarm on this, and it's, it's amazing that it took from 2007 to 2020 for it to get any attention, that this was actually going on. And, you know, I am just, I am actually honored to have the opportunity to shine a light on this and to, you know, be helping the many, many, many countless victims now who've had their trauma immortalized on this site. Uh, and so I don't know why it took this long t- for it to come to light. But there's this saying that I love, and it's, i- it's, "It's an idea whose time had come." And I think that that's actually true. It was an idea. Trafficking Hub, which is the movement that I started to hold Pornhub accountable, it started with a hashtag on social media and grew and went viral. But I think Trafficking Hub was an idea whose time had finally come. And enough was enough, and it was time to, you know, expose what was going on.

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